북미 정상회담(6월12일)이 끝난 뒤인 6월 14일 강경화 외교부 장관과 마이크 폼페이오 미국 국무장관, 고노 다로(河野太郞) 일본 외무상은 한미일 외교장관회담을 한 뒤 공동 기자회견을 했다. 아래는 회견 모두발언 전문.




▲ 강경화 외교부 장관 = 폼페이오 장관, 고노 외무상을 서울에서 맞이하고 회담을 개최해 기쁘게 생각합니다. 폼페이오 장관에게 이 기회를 빌려 역사적인 트럼프 대통령과 김정은 위원장의 6·12 북미정상회담을 마치고 바로 서울을 방문한 데 대해 감사 말씀을 드린다. 이번 일정은 폼페이오 장관의 취임 후 첫 서울 방문이기도 하다. 환영한다. 장관님과 이 자리를 함께한다는 것은 그 무엇보다 우리가 한미동맹의 강화와 공동목표의 달성에서 얼마나 친밀공조하는지 증명한다 하겠다. 고노 외상에게 일본이 북미정상회담 성공 위한 긴밀 공조해준 데 대해 감사한다. 고노 외상은 지난 4월 이후 재차 서울을 방문했다. 환영한다.


저는 국무장관에게 축하말씀 드렸고 트럼프 대통령에게도 축하말씀 드렸다. 북미정상회담 성공은 한반도에서 지구 상에 마지막 냉전을 해체하고 북핵 문제를 해결하며 한반도의 항구적 평화를 수립하게 되는 역사적 사건으로 기록될 것이다.


첫째. 북미정상회담에 대해 한미일 외교장관은 싱가포르 북미회담에서 김 위원장의 한반도의 완전한 비핵화에 대한 확고부동한 의지를 재확인하고 트럼프 대통령이 북한에게 안전보장을 확약한 공동성명이 채택된 것을 환영했다. 이는 북한의 최고지도자가 사상 최초로 미국 대통령에게 한반도의 비핵화를 향해 노력하겠다고 약속한 것으로서 북핵문제 해결을 위한 실천에 있어 가장 강력한 정치적 계기가 될 것이라고 우린 생각한다.


둘째. 우리는 이해를 같이했다. 미북간 개최된 6·12 회의는 끝이 아니라 새로운 시작이다. 비핵화된 평화적 한반도는 새로운 출발이란 점에 인식을 같이했다. 3국이 공동으로 기대하는 것은 북미회담 결과를 바탕으로 후속 협상 과정에서, 비핵화 과정에서 상당한 진전을 거두는 것이다. 이 프로세스를 통해 보다 밝고 번영된 미래에 대한 보다 구체적 그림을 북한에 보여줄 수 있기를 기대한다.


셋째. 3개국 지도자들의 긴밀한 협조가 없었다면 이 자리 같은 결과가 없었을 것이란 점에 동의한다. 문재인 대통령과 트럼프 대통령 간 긴밀한 소통, 신뢰가 원동력 역할을 해줘서 미북회담이 실현됐고 진정한 성공을 가져다줬다. 이런 맥락에서 앞으로 계속해서 한반도의 완전한 비핵화와 항구적 평화를 달성하기 위해 폼페이오 장관과 고노 외상과 지속해서 빛 샐 틈 없는 협력과 협의를 계속하기를 기대한다.


우리는 또한 이웃국가 및 국제사회 내 다른 우방국들과 긴밀한 협력을 계속할 것이다. 마지막으로 폼페이오 장관과 나는 올해 65주년을 맞은 한미동맹이 어느 때보다 막강하고 주한미군은 이 지역의 억지력과 평화안정에 중요한 역할을 해왔고 앞으로도 할 것을 재확인했다.


▲ 폼페이오 국무장관 = 이 자리에 강경화 장관과 고노 장관 함께 서게 돼 큰 영광이다. 이것은 미북 양국 정상이 싱가포르에서 회담한 후 바로 이어지고 있다. 한미일 3자간 공조는 우리가 북한에 대해 노력하는 데 있어 효과성을 담보해 왔으며 싱가포르 정상회담의 추동력이 됐다고 생각한다. 오늘 우리가 가진 토론은 우리 3국이 계속해서 이 같은 노력의 성공을 위해 노력할 것임을 반영하는 것이다. 오늘 트럼프 대통령과 김 위원장 간의 정상회담 결과를 논의했으며 비핵화 과정에서 긴밀하게 공조할 것임을 논의했다. 정상회담은 역사적으로 북미관계에 있어 큰 전환점이 된다. 김 위원장이 완전한 비핵화를 하겠다고 선언한 것은 동북아뿐만 아니라 전 세계적으로 평화와 안정을 가져오는 데 굉장히 중요하다. 물론 이것은 하나의 과정이며 쉬운 과정이 아닐 것이다. 동맹국 공조는 성공 담보에 매우 중요하다.


전 세계와 미국과 한미일은 완전하고 검증 가능하며 비가역적인 북한의 비핵화(CVID)를 위해 노력할 것이다. 한미일 동맹은 강철과 같이 견고하며 우리 3자는 매우 긴밀한 친교관계를 만들었고 앞으로도 북한 문제와 관련해 계속 공조할 것이다. 트럼프 대통령은 또한 김 위원장이 비핵화를 한다면 북한에 더 밝은 미래가 있을 것이라 말씀했다. 트럼프 대통령은 이 비전을 지난해 11월 서울에서 분명히 천명했다. 우리는 더 강하고 안정적으로 연결되고 부유해짐으로써 국제사회에 완전히 편입된 북한의 모습을 그리고 있다. 김 위원장은 싱가포르에서 그가 이런 비전을 공유함을 시사했다. 우리는 김 위원장이 이를 이루기 위해 다음 단계 조치를 취하기를 고대한다. 미국은 역사의 새 장을 열 준비가 돼 있다.


▲ 고노 외무상 = 본 회담은 폼페이오 장관 취임 후 처음으로 개최되는 한미일 회담이다. 강 장관과 저는 폼페이오 장관이 시의적절하게 본인이 참여한 김정은 위원장의 한반도의 완전한 비핵화를 확약한 북미회담에 대해 브리핑한 데 감사한다. 이 자리를 빌려 트럼프 대통령의 강력한 리더십과 폼페이오 장관의 지속적인 노력에 감사를 전한다. 이는 모든 대량살상무기와 모든 사정거리의 탄도미사일 폐기, CVID를 통해 공통의 목표를 달성하기 위한, 대단히 어렵지만 중요한 프로세스의 시작일 뿐이다. 폼페이오 장관의 브리핑을 듣고 나서 저희 3명은 심도 있고 솔직한 토론을 했다. 북미회담 결과에 따라 관련된 유엔 안보리 결의를 전면 이행하고 어떻게 북한에게 촉구할 것인지 논의했다. 3국이 공동 노력을 계속해 목적을 달성하기로 재확인했다. 북한체제의 보장과 관련해 논의를 진행하는 가운데 북한이 비핵화 약속 이행을 위해 구체적 조치하는지 주의 깊게 모니터링하고 있으며 미국이 아직 체제보장 조치를 하지 않았단 점에 주목한다. 미국이 북한 체제보장에 관한 논의를 진행할 것으로 생각한다. 여기서 중요한 것은 북한이 비핵화 약속을 이행하는 것이다. 


더불어 한미연합훈련과 관련, 우리는 미일동맹과 한미훈련에 기반을 둔 억지력이 동북아 안보에 중요한 역할을 하고 있다고 믿는다. 한미훈련 중단과 관련해 한국과 미국이 세부 사항을 논의할 것입니다. 우리는 어떤 경우라도 한미훈련 중단은 북한이 비핵화 조치를 취하는 데 맞춰서 진행될 문제라고 이해한다.


우리는 미국이 동맹국에 대한 안보공약을 유지할 것으로 이해한다. 일미 안보공약과 주일미군은 변화하지 않을 것이다. 이번 이슈는 일본과 이 지역의 안보에 영향을 미치기 때문에 어떤 경우라도 그들과 긴밀한 접촉을 유지하기를 원한다.


일본은 북일 평양선언문(2002년)에 따라 계속해 북한과 관계 정상화를 추구할 것이며 이를 위해 남은 포괄적 문제를 모두 해결하기를 희망한다. 핵무기와 미사일, 납치문제 같은 문제, 나아가 불행한 과거의 해결도 포괄적으로 해결하고자 한다. 일본은 계속해서 중요한 역할을 할 것이다. 동북아 평화안정 실현에 중요한 역할을 할 것이다. 앞으로도 계속해서 폼페이오 장관, 강 장관과 함께 일할 것을 고대한다.



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2018 북미정상회담2018.06.17 16:08

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6월2일 / 트럼프 기자 간담회, 북미 정상회담 개최 공식 확인 (관련기사링크, 전문링크)





6월9일 / 트럼프, "싱가포르 회담은 북한을 위대하게 만들 단 한번의 기회" (관련기사링크, 전문링크




6월11일 / 폼페이오 기자간담회 "CVID 착수하면 북한에 전례없는 안전보장 제공할 용의." (관련기사링크, 전문링크)   



6월12일 




단독회담 


(김정은 위원장은 회담장 입구에서 트럼프 대통령과 악수를 하며 "Nice to meet you, Mr. President."라고 말했다고 폴리티코의 엘리나 존슨 기자가 전해. 그러나 이후 "다른 사람들은 영어로 발언한 사람이 김 위원장이 아니라 통역사인 것으로 보고 있다"고 바로잡기도.) 

* 영문은 백악관 공식 릴리즈 


Q Mr. President, how do you feel (inaudible)?


PRESIDENT TRUMP: I feel really great. We’re going to have a great discussion and, I think, tremendous success. It will be tremendously successful. And it’s my honor. And we will have a terrific relationship, I have no doubt.


CHAIRMAN KIM: (As interpreted.) Well, it was not easy to get here. The past worked as fetters on our limbs, and the old prejudices and practices worked as obstacles on our way forward. But we overcame all of them, and we are here today.


PRESIDENT TRUMP: That’s true.


Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. Thank you very much.


CHAIRMAN KIM: (As interpreted.) Thank you.


트럼프 :  기분이 정말 좋다. 아주 좋은 대화가 될 것이고, 엄청난 성공이 될 것으로 생각한다. 정말 성공적일 것이라고 생각한다. 저의 영광이다. 우리는 아주 훌륭한  관계를 맺을 것이다. 의심할 여지가 없다. 


김정은 :  여기까지 오는 길이 그리 쉬운 길이 아니었다. 우리한테는 우리 발목을 잡는 과거가 있고 그랬던 관행들이 때로는 우리 눈과 귀를 가리고 있었는데 모든 것을 이겨내고 이 자리까지 왔다." 




확대회담 및 오찬 


(확대회담 전 발코니로 이동하면서 김정은 위원장은 트럼프 대통령에게  "많은 이들이 이번 회담을 일종의  판타지나 공상과학 영화로 생각할 것"이라고 말했다고 백악관 공동취재단은 전해. 김 위원장은 그러나 "미스터 김(Mr. Kim), 당신의 핵무기를 포기할 겁니까'라는 질문까지 3번 연속으로 비핵화 질문을 받았으나 전혀 반응하지 않아. ) 


PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Mr. Chairman, it’s a great honor to be with you.  And I know that we will have tremendous success together, and we will solve a big problem, a big dilemma that, until this point, has been unable to be solved.  I know that, working together, we will get it taken care of.  So it’s a great honor.  Thank you very much.


CHAIRMAN KIM:  (As interpreted.)  (Inaudible.)  We overcame all kinds of skepticism and speculations about this summit and I believe that this is good prelude for peace.


PRESIDENT TRUMP:  I believe, too.


CHAIRMAN KIM:  (As interpreted.)  (Inaudible.)


PRESIDENT TRUMP:  We will solve it.  We will be successful and I look forward to working on it with you.  It will be done.


Thank you very much.  Thank you very much, everybody.  Thank you.  Thank you very much.


참석자 : 폼페이오,볼턴,켈리 vs 김영철,리수용,리용 (관련기사링크)


 




공동성명 서명 


[서명식 전] 


So we are signing very important document, pretty comprehensive document and we've had a really great term together, great relationship. I will be getting a news conference at 2:30 which is in little bit less than two hours. We will discuss this great length. In the midtime I believe that they will be handing it out on behalf of chairman Kim and myself and we are both very honored to sign the document


트럼프 : 우리는 매우 중요한 문서, 포괄적인 문서에 서명을 하게 될 것입니다. 우리는 훌륭한 대담을 가졌고, 좋은 관계를 구축했습니다. 약 2시간 뒤에 저는 기자회견을 열 예정입니다. 거기에서 좀 더 자세하게 말씀을 드리겠습니다만 그 전에 발표문이 기자 여러분께 배포될 것입니다. 김위원장과 나는 이 문서에 서명하는 것을 매우 영광스럽게 생각합니다.


김정은 : 우리는 오늘 역사적인 이 만남에서 지난 과거를 놓고 새로운 출발을 알리는 역사적인 문건에 서명을 하게 됩니다. 세상은 아마 중대한 변화를 보게 될 것입니다. 오늘과 같은 이 자리를 위해 노력을 해주신 트럼프 대통령께 사의를 표합니다. 감사합니다.


[서명식 후]


Q. 기자 : 트럼프 대통령님, 비핵화에 합의한 겁니까?

A. 트럼프 : 우리는 그 과정을 매우 빠르게 시작할 것입니다. 관련된 모든 내용을 조금 뒤에 구체적으로 보게 될 것입니다.  

We are starting that progress very very quickly.  You will be seeing everything in just a little while and the letter that we are signing is very comprehensive.


Q. 기자: 완벽한 비핵화입니까?  

오토 웜비어 사건을 논의하셨습니까? 


A. 트럼프: 말한 것처럼 이것은 포괄적인 서명이고 양측의 긍정적인 서명이 될 것입니다. 아주 많은 의지와 노력, 준비가 여기 들어갔습니다. 양측 모두와 특히 폼페이오 국무장관에게 감사하고 싶습니다. 모두가 정말 멋졌습니다.


I think both sides are going to be very impressed with the results. A lot of good will went into this and a lot of work and a lot of preparation, I want to thank everybody of both sides and Secretary Pompeo. all of these counterparts, they were absolutely fantastic.


트럼프 : 감사합니다. 조금 있다 기자회견 때 뵙겠습니다. 오늘 있었던 일에 대해서 저는 정말 자랑스럽게 생각하고, 북한과 한반도의 상황을 봤을 때 지금까지와는 매우 다른 국면이 그려질 것이라고 생각합니다.


우리는 아주 중요한 해결에 시작을 했다고 말할 수 있었습니다. 저희는 정말 무언가 해 내고 싶습니다. 그래서 저희는 정말 각별한 사이가 됐습니다. 이것을 들으시면 굉장히 놀랄 겁니다. 우리는 앞으로 세계의 크고 위험한 문제를 해결할 것이고, 일단 김 위원장에게 감사의 말씀을 드리고 싶습니다. 오늘 굉장히 면밀히 그리고 주도적으로 대화했었습니다. 누구의 예측보다도, 예측한 것보다 훨씬 만족스러운 성과를 냈습니다. 그래서 점차 더욱 더 많은 결과를 낼 것이라고 생각합니다. 함께 해 영광이었습니다. 모든 대표들에게 감사합니다.


Thank you very much everybody. we will see little bit later and we are very proud of what to plae today. I think our whole relationship with North Korea and the Korean peninsula... it is goinf to be very much different situation that has in the past. we both want to do something, we both are going to do something and we have developed the very special bond so people are gonna very impressed and people are gonna be very happy  and we are going to take care of very big and very dangerous problems for the world and I wanna thank Chairman Kim. We have spent a lot of time, very extensive time and I would actually say that it worked out for both of us far better than anbody could've expected. I think I far better I wacthed various news reports, I would say far better than anybody even predicted. This is going to lead to more and more and it is honoured to be with you. Very great hounour. Thank you to all of you representives very much. Thank you very much everybody. 


(회담장 밖에서) 


Q. 김정은 위원장에 대해서 어떤 부분에 가장 놀랐습니까?

What surprised you the most about Mr chairman Kim? 


A. 굉장히 성격이 좋고 훌륭한 협상가입니다. 북한 국민들을 대신해서 아주 똑똑하게 협상하시는 협상가입니다. 훌륭한 하루였고 각자의 국가에 대해 많이 배웠습니다. 제가 배우게 된 것은 김 위원장이 굉장히 재능있는 분이라는 것과 북한을 굉장히 사랑하는 사람이라는 것입니다. 

(언제 서로 다시 보실 겁니까?) (다시 보실 겁니까?) 네 우리는 여러 차례 만날 겁니다.  


Great personality and very smart and good confidential. (Worthy Negotiator?) He is a worthy Negotiator. He is negotiating on behalf of these people, very worthy and smart negotiator, absolutely. We had a terrific day(?). We learned a lot about each other (What did you learned about him? sir?) 

I learned that he is a very talented man and  he loves his country very much.  

(when will you each other again?)

- We will meet "many times.”


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공동성명 전문 (비공식 한글번역) 


도널드 트럼프 미합중국 대통령과 김정은 조선민주주의인민공화국 국무위원장의 싱가포르 정상회담 공동성명


    트럼프 대통령과 김정은 위원장은 미국과 조선민주주의인민공화국의 새로운  관계 수립과 한반도의 지속적이고 견고한 평화체제 구축과 관련한 사안들을 주제로 포괄적이고 심층적이며 진지한 방식으로 의견을 교환했다. 트럼프 대통령은  조선민주주의인민공화국의 안전보장을 제공하기로 약속했고, 김정은 위원장은 한반도의 완전한 비핵화를 향한 흔들리지 않는 확고한 약속을 재확인했다.


    새로운 북미관계를 수립하는 것이 한반도와 세계의 평화, 번영에 이바지할 것이라는 점을 확신하고, 상호신뢰를 구축하는 것이 한반도 비핵화를 증진할 수 있다고 인정하면서 트럼프 대통령과 김 위원장은 아래와 같은 합의사항을 선언한다. 

    

    1. 미국과 조선민주주의인민공화국은 평화와 번영을 위한 양국 국민의 바람에 맞춰 미국과 조선민주주의인민공화국의 새로운 관계를 수립하기로 약속한다. 

    2. 양국은 한반도의 지속적이고 안정적인 평화체제를 구축하기 위해 함께  노력한다. 

    3. 2018년 4월 27일 판문점 선언을 재확인하며, 조선민주주의인민공화국은 한반도의 완전한 비핵화를 향해 노력할 것을 약속한다. 

    4. 미국과 조선민주주의인민공화국은 신원이 이미 확인된 전쟁포로, 전쟁  실종자들의 유해를 즉각 송환하는 것을 포함해 전쟁포로, 전쟁실종자들의 유해 수습을 약속한다. 


    역사상 처음으로 이뤄진 북미 정상회담이 거대한 중요성을 지닌 획기적인  사건이라는 점을 확인하고, 북미 간 수십 년의 긴장과 적대행위를 극복하면서 새로운 미래를 열어나가기 위해 트럼프 대통령과 김 위원장은 공동성명에 적시된 사항들을 완전하고 신속하게 이행할 것을 약속한다. 미국과 조선민주주의인민공화국은 북미정상회담의 결과를 이행하기 위해 마이크 폼페이오 미국 국무장관, 관련한 조선민주주의

인민공화국 고위급 관리가 주도하는 후속 협상을 가능한 한 가장 이른 시일에  개최하기로 약속한다.

    도널드 트럼프 미합중국 대통령과 김정은 조선민주주의인민공화국 국무위원장은 북미관계의 발전, 한반도와 세계의 평화, 번영, 안전을 위해 협력할 것을 약속했다.

    

    2018년 6월 12일 

    싱가포르 센토사 섬에서. 


[ 북한측 공식본 ] 


김정은 조선민주주의인민공화국 국무위원회 위원장과 도날드 제이 . 트럼프 미합중국 대통령사이의 싱가포르수뇌회담 공동성명


김정은 조선민주주의인민공화국 국무위원회 위원장과 도날드 제이 . 트럼프 미합중국 대통령은 2018 년 6 월 12 일 싱가포르에서 첫 력사적인 수뇌회담을 진행하였다 .


김정은위원장과 트럼프대통령은 새로운 조미관계수립과 조선반도에서의 항구적이며 공고한 평화체제구축에 관한 문제들에 대하여 포괄적이며 심도있고 솔직한 의견교환을 진행하였다 .


트럼프대통령은 조선민주주의인민공화국에 안전담보를 제공할것을 확언하였으며 김정은위원장은 조선반도의 완전한 비핵화에 대한 확고부동한 의지를 재확인하였다 .


김정은위원장과 트럼프대통령은 새로운 조미관계수립이 조선반도와 세계의 평화와 번영에 이바지할것이라는것을 확신하면서 , 호상 신뢰구축이 조선반도의 비핵화를 추동할수 있다는것을 인정하면서 다음과 같이 성명한다 .


1 . 조선민주주의인민공화국과 미합중국은 평화와 번영을 바라는 두 나라 인민들의 념원에 맞게 새로운 조미관계를 수립해나가기로 하였다 .


2 . 조선민주주의인민공화국과 미합중국은 조선반도에서 항구적이며 공고한 평화체제를 구축하기 위하여 공동으로 노력할것이다 .


3 . 조선민주주의인민공화국은 2018 년 4 월 27 일에 채택된 판문점선언을 재확인하면서 조선반도의 완전한 비핵화를 향하여 노력할것을 확약하였다 .


4 . 조선민주주의인민공화국과 미합중국은 전쟁포로 및 행방불명자들의 유골발굴을 진행하며 이미 발굴확인된 유골들을 즉시 송환할것을 확약하였다 .


김정은위원장과 트럼프대통령은 력사상 처음으로 되는 조미수뇌회담이 두 나라사이에 수십년간 지속되여온 긴장상태와 적대관계를 해소하고 새로운 미래를 열어나가는데서 커다란 의의를 가지는 획기적인 사변이라는데 대하여 인정하면서 공동성명의 조항들을 완전하고 신속하게 리행하기로 하였다 .


조선민주주의인민공화국과 미합중국은 조미수뇌회담의 결과를 리행하기 위하여 가능한 빠른 시일안에 마이크 폼페오 미합중국 국무장관과 조선민주주의인민공화국 해당 고위인사사이의 후속협상을 진행하기로 하였다 .


김정은 조선민주주의인민공화국 국무위원회 위원장과 도날드 제이 . 트럼프 미합중국 대통령은 새로운 조미관계발전과 조선반도와 세계의 평화와 번영 , 안전을 추동하기 위하여 협력하기로 하였다 .



2018 년 6 월 12 일

싱가포르 쎈토사섬


조선민주주의인민공화국 국무위원회 위원장 김정은

미합중국 대통령 도날드 제이 . 트럼프


[ 영어 공식본 ]


Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit


President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea(DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.


President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of a new US-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.


Convinced that the establishment of new US-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:


    1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.


    2. The Unite States and the DPRK will join the efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.


    3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.


    4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.


Having acknowledged that the US-DRPK summit - the first in history - was a epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint agreement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the US-DPRK summit.


President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new US-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and the security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.










트럼프 기자회견 


(관련기사링크, 백악관 전문 링크, 한글 번역 링크 )


Capella Hotel

Singapore


4:15 P.M. SGT


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, thank you very much, everybody.  We appreciate it.  We’re getting ready to go back.  We had a tremendous 24 hours.  We’ve had a tremendous three months, actually, because this has been going on for quite a while.  That was a tape that we gave to Chairman Kim and his people, his representatives.  And it captures a lot.  It captures what could be done.  And that’s a great — a great place.  It has the potential to be an incredible place.  Between South Korea — if you think about it — and China, it’s got tremendous potential.  And I think he understands that and he wants to do what’s right.


It’s my honor today to address the people of the world, following this very historic summit with Chairman Kim Jong Un of North Korea.  We spent very intensive hours together, and I think most of you have gotten the signed document, or you will very shortly.  It’s very comprehensive.  It’s going to happen.


I stand before you as an emissary of the American people to deliver a message of hope and vision, and a message of peace.


Let me begin by thanking our incredible hosts in Singapore, especially Prime Minister Lee, a friend of mine.  This is a country of profound grace and beauty, and we send our warmest wishes to every citizen of Singapore, who really made this visit so important and so pleasant, despite all of the work and all of the long hours.


I also want to thank President Moon of South Korea.  He’s working hard.  In fact, I’ll be speaking to him right after we’re finished.  Prime Minister Abe of Japan — a friend of mine — just left our country, and he wants what’s right for Japan and for the world.  He’s a good man.  And a very special person, President Xi of China, who has really closed up that border — maybe a little bit less so over the last couple of months, but that’s okay.  But he really has.  And he’s a terrific person and a friend of mine, and really a great leader of his people.  I want to thank them for their efforts to help us get to this very historic day.


Most importantly, I want to thank Chairman Kim for taking the first bold step toward a bright new future for his people.  Our unprecedented meeting — the first between an American President and a leader of North Korea — proves that real change is indeed possible.


My meeting with Chairman Kim was honest, direct, and productive.  We got to know each other well in a very confined period of time, under very strong, strong circumstance.  We’re prepared to start a new history and we’re ready to write a new chapter between our nations.


Nearly 70 years ago — think of that; 70 years ago — an extremely bloody conflict ravaged the Korean Peninsula.  Countless people died in the conflict, including tens of thousands of brave Americans.  Yet, while the armistice was agreed to, the war never ended.  To this day, never ended.  But now we can all have hope that it will soon end.  And it will.  It will soon end.


The past does not have to define the future.  Yesterday’s conflict does not have to be tomorrow’s war.  And as history has proven over and over again, adversaries can indeed become friends.  We can honor the sacrifice of our forefathers by replacing the horrors of battle with the blessings of peace.  And that’s what we’re doing and that’s what we have done.


There is no limit to what North Korea can achieve when it gives up its nuclear weapons and embraces commerce and engagement with the rest of the world — that really wants to engage.  Chairman Kim has before him an opportunity like no other: to be remembered as the leader who ushered in a glorious new era of security and prosperity for his people.


Chairman Kim and I just signed a joint statement in which he reaffirmed his “unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”  We also agreed to vigorous negotiations to implement the agreement as soon as possible.  And he wants to do that.  This isn’t the past.  This isn’t another administration that never got it started and therefore never got it done.


Chairman Kim has told me that North Korea is already destroying a major missile engine testing site.  That’s not in your signed document; we agreed to that after the agreement was signed.  That’s a big thing — for the missiles that they were testing, the site is going to be destroyed very soon.


Today is the beginning of an arduous process.  Our eyes are wide open, but peace is always worth the effort, especially in this case.  This should have been done years ago.  This should have been resolved a long time ago, but we’re resolving it now.


Chairman Kim has the chance to seize an incredible future for his people.  Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace.


The current state of affairs cannot endure forever.  The people of Korea — North and South — are profoundly talented, industrious, and gifted.  These are truly gifted people.  They share the same heritage, language, customs, culture, and destiny.  But to realize their amazing destiny, to reunite their national family, the menace of nuclear weapons will now be removed.


In the meantime, the sanctions will remain in effect.  We dream of a future where all Koreans can live together in harmony, where families are reunited and hopes are reborn, and where the light of peace chases away the darkness of war.  This bright future is within — and this is what’s happening.  It is right there.  It’s within our reach.  It’s going to be there.  It’s going to happen.  People thought this could never take place.  It is now taking place.  It’s a very great day.  It’s a very great moment in the history of the world.


And Chairman Kim is on his way back to North Korea.  And I know for a fact, as soon as he arrives, he’s going to start a process that’s going to make a lot of people very happy and very safe.


So it’s an honor to be with everybody today.  The media — this is a big gathering of media, I will say.  It makes me feel very uncomfortable.  (Laughter.)  But it is what it is.  People understand that this is something very important to all of us, including yourselves and your families.


So thank you very much for being here.  We’ll take some questions.  Wow.  That’s a lot of questions.  Go ahead.  Sure, go ahead.  NBC.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  Two questions for you, if you don’t mind.  First, the man you met today, Kim Jong Un, as you know, has killed family members, has starved his own people, is responsible for the death of Otto Warmbier.  Why are you so comfortable calling him “very talented”?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, he is very talented.  Anybody that takes over a situation like he did, at 26 years of age, and is able to run it, and run it tough — I don’t say he was nice or I don’t say anything about it — he ran it.  Very few people, at that age — you can take one out of ten thousand, probably, couldn’t do it.


Otto Warmbier is a very special person, and he will be for a long time, in my life.  His parents are good friends of mine.  I think, without Otto, this would not have happened.  Something happened, from that day.  It was a terrible thing.  It was brutal.  But a lot of people started to focus on what was going on, including North Korea.


I really think that Otto is someone who did not die in vain.  I told this to his parents.  Special young man.  And I have to say, special parents, special people.  Otto did not die in vain.  He had a lot to do with us being here today.  Okay?  Thank you very much.


Q    Mr. President, that second question for you, sir, was on the security — the second question, sir —


THE PRESIDENT:  Go ahead.


Q    — on the security assurances you talked about in your statement.  Can you be specific about what assurances you are willing to give to Kim Jong Un?  Does that include reducing military capabilities?


THE PRESIDENT:  No.


Q    And just to follow up on your answer —


THE PRESIDENT:  No, we’re not reducing anything.  We’re not reducing.  At some point, I have to be honest — and I used to say this during my campaign, as you know, probably, better than most — I want to get our soldiers out.  I want to bring our soldiers back home.  We have, right now, 32,000 soldiers in South Korea, and I’d like to be able to bring them back home.  But that’s not part of the equation right now.  At some point, I hope it will be, but not right now.


We will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money, unless and until we see the future negotiation is not going along like it should.  But we’ll be saving a tremendous amount of money.  Plus, I think it’s very provocative.


Yes, John.  Yes, John, go ahead.  Oh, go ahead.  I’m sorry, I thought you were John Roberts.  I looked at you, you just like —


Q    It’s all right.


THE PRESIDENT:  Much better, right?


Q    Frequently — we’re frequently confused, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    Mr. President, this joint statement does not talk about verifiable or irreversible denuclearization.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.


Q    Was that a concession on the part of the United States?


THE PRESIDENT:  No, not at all.  Because if you look at it, I mean, it said we are going to — let’s see here — it will be gone.  I don’t think you can be anymore plain than what we’re asking — “issues related to the establishment of the new U.S. DPRK relations” — the building.  We talk about the guarantees, and we talk about “unwavering commitment to the complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”  This is the document that we just signed.


Q    Did you discuss with Chairman Kim methods to verify, either with the United States or international organizations, that very process?  And do you have a timetable —


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, we did.  Yes, we did.  And we’ll be verifying.


Q    Can you give that to us?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, we’ll be verifying.  It will be verified.


Q    How is that going to be achieved, Mr. President?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, it’s going to be achieved by having a lot of people there, and as we develop a certain trust.  And we think we have done that.  Secretary Pompeo has been really doing a fantastic job — his staff, everybody.  As we do that, we’re going to have a lot of people there, and we’re going to be working with them on a lot of other things.  But this is complete denuclearization of North Korea, and it will be verified.


Q    Will those people be Americans or international —


THE PRESIDENT:  Uh, combinations of both.  Combinations of both.  And we have talked about it, yes.


Yeah, go ahead.  Be nice.  Be respectful.


Q    I’ll be very respectful, sir.  What did Kim Jong Un say to you to give you the confidence that, for once in the history of North Korea, they are not cheating the system, and gaming the world, and gaming the people who will have to go in and make sure that they’re actually giving up their nuclear arsenal?  What did he say to you?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, I mean, very fair question.  He actually mentioned the fact that they proceeded down a path in the past, and, ultimately, as you know, nothing got done.  In one case, they took billions of dollars — during the Clinton regime — took billions of dollars and nothing happened.  That was a terrible thing, and he actually brought it up to me.


And he said we have never gone this far.  I don’t think they’ve ever had the confidence, frankly, in a President that they have right now for getting things done and having the ability to get things done.  And he was very firm in the fact that he wants to do this.  I think he might want to do this as much or even more than me because they see a very bright future for North Korea.


So you never know.  Right?  We never know.  But I’ll tell you what, we signed a very comprehensive document today, and I think most of you have been given that document.  But we signed a very, very comprehensive document, and I believe he’s going to live up to that document.  In fact, when he lands — which is going to be shortly — I think that he will start that process right away.


Q    Do you trust him, Mr. President?


THE PRESIDENT:  I do.  I do.  I can only say that I know him for — really well, it’s been very rhetorical, as you know.  I think, without the rhetoric, it wouldn’t have happened.  I think without other things going along — I think the establishment of a new team was very important.  We have a great team.  But I do, I think he wants to get it done.  I really feel that very strongly.


Oh, there’s John.  I think — you know, you two guys look alike when the light is right on the — the hair is very similar.  Let me see, who has better hair?  He’s got pretty good hair, John, I hate to —


Q    It’s the angelic glow of the backlighting, Mr. President, that makes us look so similar.  Of course, the denuclearization — nuclear weapons and biological weapons and whatnot — is one problem in North Korea.  Another huge problem is the horrible record that they have on human rights.  Was that discussed at all?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    Is that something that you will tackle in the future?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, it was discussed.  It will be discussed more in the future — human rights.  What was also discussed in great detail, John, was that fact that, you know, we have — and I must have had just countless calls and letters and tweets, anything you can do — they want the remains of their sons back.  They want the remains of their fathers, and mothers, and all of the people that got caught into that really brutal war, which took place, to a large extent, in North Korea.  And I asked for it today, and we got it.  That was a very last minute.  The remains will be coming back.  They’re going to start that process immediately.


But so many people, even during the campaign, they’d say, “Is there any way you can work with North Korea to get the remains of my son back or my father back?”  So many people asked me this question.  And, you know, I said, “Look, we don’t get along too well with that particular group of people.”  But now we do.  And he agreed to that so quickly and so nice — it was really a very nice thing, and he understands it.  He understands it.


So for the thousands and thousands — I guess way over 6,000 that we know of, in terms of the remains, they’ll be brought back.


Q    The POW-MIA issue clearly is a very important one for thousands of Americans.


THE PRESIDENT:  Especially to a lot of people that are —


Q    But what do you, President Trump, expect Kim Jong Un to do about the human rights record regarding the North Korean people?


THE PRESIDENT:  Right.  It was discussed.  It was discussed relatively briefly compared to denuclearization.  Well, obviously, that’s where we started and where we ended.  But they will be doing things, and I think he wants to do things.  I think he wants to — you’d be very surprised.  Very smart.  Very good negotiator.  Wants to do the right thing.


You know, he brought up the fact that, in the past, they took dialogue far — they never went — they never were like we are.  There’s never been anything like what’s taken place now.  But they went down the line.  Billions of dollars were given, and you know, the following day the nuclear program continued.  But this is a much different time, and this is a much different President, in all fairness.  This is very important to me.  This is one of the — perhaps, one of the reasons that I — one, I campaigned on this issue, as you know very well, John.


Okay.  Whoever those people are.  I cannot see you with all the lights, but you don’t look like either of the two.  Yeah, go ahead.  Sure.  Go ahead.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  And first of all, congratulations.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.  Appreciate it.


Q    Can you touch on the issue of a peace treaty?  And also, will you travel to Pyongyang anytime soon?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, at a certain time, I will.  I said that will be a day that I look very much forward to, at the appropriate time.  And I also will be inviting Chairman Kim, at the appropriate time, to the White House.  I think it’s really going to be something that will be very important.  And he has accepted.  I said, at the appropriate time.  We want to go a little bit further down the road.


But what we signed today was a lot of things included.  And then you have things that weren’t included that we got after the deal was signed.  I’ve done that before in my life.  We didn’t put it in the agreement because we didn’t have time.  And I think most of you have been handed out the agreement or soon will.  But I —


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh, you have not?  Okay.  Well, if you could have those agreements passed out.  We just finished them, just a little while ago.  But if you could have the agreements passed out, we’ll — you’ll see what we’re talking about.


Yes, sir.  Go ahead.


Q    I will second the congratulations, President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    What part did Japan play?  And did the abduction issue come up?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    And also, the fate of the Christians?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    And the follow-up question is when will you be doing an interview with Japanese TV?  Fifty-thousand American troops are in Japan.  Congratulations, again.


THE PRESIDENT:  That’s true.  Fifty-thousand great troops.  That’s true.  Yeah, it did — abduction.  Absolutely.  This is Prime Minister Abe’s — one of his, certainly — other than the whole denuking subject — certainly his, I would say, his main point.  And I brought it up.  Absolutely.  And they’re going to be working on that.  It will be — we didn’t put it down in the document, but it will be worked on.


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  Christians, yes.  We are — brought it up very strongly.  You know, Franklin Graham spent — spent and spends a tremendous amount of time in North Korea.  He’s got it very close to his heart.  It did come up, and things will be happening.  Okay?  Thank you.  Great question.


Yes, Jon.  Go ahead.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you, Jon.


Q    Returning to the question of human rights, you spoke very powerfully on the issue during your State of the Union Address.  You showed that — you had the defector in the First Lady’s box with the crutches, who escaped.  And you, at that point, said that North Korea has more brutally oppressed its people than any other regime on Earth.  Do you still believe that is the case having sat down with Kim Jong Un?  And does he need to change that?


THE PRESIDENT:  Right.  Jon, I believe it’s a rough situation over there.  There’s no question about it.  And we did discuss it today pretty strongly.  I mean, knowing what the main purpose of what we were doing is: denuking.  But discussed it at pretty good length.  We’ll be doing something on it.  It’s rough.  It’s rough in a lot of places, by the way.  Not just there.  But it’s rough, and we will continue that.  And I think, ultimately, we’ll agree to something.  But it was discussed at length outside of the nuclear situation, one of the primary topics.


Q    But do you think that needs to change to bring on this glorious new era you’ve talked about?  Are they going to have to —


THE PRESIDENT:  I think it will change.  Yeah.  I think it probably has to, but I think it will.  Yeah.  Thank you.  Thank you very much.


Steve.  That’s you, Steve?  Right there.


Q    Yes, sir.  Thank you.  What timetable do you envision for their denuclearization?  And in the meantime, are you thinking about easing any sanctions?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, you know, scientifically, I’ve been watching and reading a lot about this, and it does take a long time to pull off complete denuclearization.  It takes a long time.  Scientifically, you have to wait certain periods of time, and a lot of things happen.  But…


Q    Having sat down with Kim Jong Un.  And does he have to change that?


THE PRESIDENT:  Jon, I believe it’s a rough situation over there.  There’s no question about it.  And we did discuss it today pretty strongly.  I mean, knowing what — the main purpose of what we were doing is: denuking.  But discussed at pretty good length.  We’ll be doing something on it.  It’s rough.  It’s rough in a lot of places, by the way — not just there.  But it’s rough.  And we will continue that, and I think, ultimately, we’ll agree to something.  But it was discussed at length.  Outside of — outside of the nuclear situation, one of the primary topics.


Q    But do you think that needs to change to bring on this glorious new era you’ve talked about?  Are they going to have to —


THE PRESIDENT:  I think it will change, yeah.  I think it probably has to.  But I think it will.  Yeah.


Thank you.  Thank you very much.


Steve?  That’s you, Steve?  Right there.


Q    Yes, sir.  Thank you.  What timetable do you envision for their denuclearization?  And in the meantime, are you thinking about easing any sanctions?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, you know, scientifically, I’ve been watching and reading a lot about this, and it does take a long time to pull off complete denuclearization.  It takes a long time.  Scientifically, you have to wait certain periods of time, and a lot of things happen.  But despite that, once you start the process, it means it’s pretty much over; you can’t use them.  That’s the good news.  And that’s going to start very — very soon.  I believe that’s going to start very soon.  We will do it as fast as it can mechanically and physically be done, Steve.


Q    And the sanctions?


THE PRESIDENT:  The sanctions will come off when we are sure that the nukes are no longer a factor.  Sanctions played a big role, but they’ll come off at that point.  I hope it’s going to be soon, but they’ll come off.  As you know, and as I’ve said, the sanctions right now remain.  But at a certain point, I actually look forward to taking them off.  And they’ll come off when we know we’re down the road — where it’s not going to happen, nothing is going to happen.  Okay?


Yes, go ahead.  Please.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    Congratulations on this historic summit.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.  Congratulations to everybody, by the way.  Congratulations to everybody.


Go ahead.


Q    You signed a document with Kim Jong Un.  It’s essentially a piece of paper.  Yesterday, we had a briefing from the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.  He said the following: “Many Presidents previously have signed off on pieces of paper only to find that the North Koreans either didn’t promise what we thought they had, or actually reneged on those promises.”  What makes this time different, Mr. President?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, you have a different administration.  You have a different President.  You have a different Secretary of State.  You have people that are — you know, it’s very important to them.  And we get it done.  The other groups, maybe it wasn’t a priority.  I don’t think they could have done it if it was a priority, frankly.  I don’t think they honestly could have done it even if it was a priority.


And it would have been easier back then.  It would have been — for me, it would have been much easier if this were 10 years ago or 5 years ago.  And I’m not just blaming President Obama.  I mean, this goes back — for 25 years, this should have happened.  I was given a very tough hand.  I was given this, I was given the Iran deal, and plenty of other problems.


But we are — we’re doing really well.  And the Iran deal, I have to be honest, I did it because nuclear is always number one to me.  Nuclear is number one.


But on the Iran deal, I think Iran is a different country now than it was three or four months ago.  I don’t think they’re looking so much to the Mediterranean.  I don’t think they’re looking so much at Syria, like they were, with total confidence.  I don’t think they’re so confident right now.


But I hope — with that being said, I hope that, at the appropriate time, after these sanctions kick in — and they are brutal, what we’ve put on Iran — I hope that they’re going to come back and negotiate a real deal, because I’d love to be able to do that.  But right now, it’s too soon for that.


Yes, please.


Q    Mr. President, you also didn’t talk about establishing diplomatic relations, exchanging ambassadors.  How long before that happens?


THE PRESIDENT:  Good question.  Hopefully soon.  But we’ll have to get things moving first.  Very — a little bit early for that.  We have to get things moving.


Yes, go ahead.  Hi.


Q    Can you clarify, when you said you were stopping “war games,” so you are stopping the military exercises with South Korea?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, we’ve done exercises for a long period of time, working with South Korea.  And we call them “war games,” and I call them “war games.”  And they’re tremendously expensive.  The amount of money that we spend on that is incredible.  And South Korea contributes, but not 100 percent, which is certainly a subject that we have to talk to them about also.  And that has to do with the military expense and also the trade.


So we’re doing that.  We actually have a new deal with South Korea, in terms of the trade deal, but we have to talk to them.  We have to talk to many countries about treating us fairly.


But the war games are very expensive.  We pay for a big majority of them.  We fly in bombers from Guam.  I said — when I first started, I said, “Where do the bombers come from?”  “Guam.  Nearby.”  I said, “Oh, great, nearby.  Where’s nearby?”  “Six and a half hours.”  Six and a half hours — that’s a long time for these big massive planes to be flying to South Korea to practice and then drop bombs all over the place, and then go back to Guam.  I know a lot about airplanes; it’s very expensive.  And I didn’t like it.


And what I did say is — and I think it’s very provocative, I have to tell you, Jennifer, it’s a very provocative situation when I see that, and you have a country right next door.  So under the circumstances that we are negotiating a very comprehensive, complete deal, I think it’s inappropriate to be having war games.


So, number one, we save money — a lot.  And number two, it really is something that I think they very much appreciate it.


Q    Does North Korea give you something in return, though?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, we’ve gotten — you know, I’ve heard that.  I mean, some of the people that — I don’t know, maybe they really mean it.  I don’t always want to go against the press because I just don’t — especially not today, this is too important.  But I noticed that some of the people were saying that the President has agreed to meet, he has given up so much.  I gave up nothing.  I’m here.  I haven’t slept in 25 hours, but I thought it was appropriate to do — because we have been negotiating for literally around the clock with them, and with us, and with John, and with Mike, and a whole team of very talented people.


But we haven’t given up anything, other than — you’re right, I agreed to meet.  And I think the meeting was every bit as good for the United States as it was for North Korea.  But I just wrote down some of the things we got.  And they — you know, they — sure, they got a meeting.  But only a person that dislikes Donald Trump would say that I’ve agreed to make a big commitment.


Sure, I’ve agreed to take a period of time and come here and meet, and that’s good.  But I think it’s great for us, as a country, and I think it’s good for them.


But what did they do to justify this meeting?  Secured commitment for complete denuclearization; that’s the big thing.  They secured the release of three American hostages.  They already gave them to us two months ago.  These people are now living happily back in their homes, with their families.  And it was pretty rough for them, to put it mildly.


Secure the commitment to recover the remains, including — these are of fallen heroes.  And they’re giving a commitment, they’re starting it immediately, to recover their remains.  And I just went through how many people asked me about it.  I was amazed, actually.  So many people would ask me, “Is it possible?  Is it possible?”  At that time we had no relationship to Chairman Kim or to anybody else in North Korea.  You know, it was a very closed society.  So we’re getting the remains back.


Secured the halt of all missile and nuclear tests for — how long has it been?  Seven months?  You haven’t had a missile go up.  For seven months, you haven’t had a nuclear test; you haven’t had a nuclear explosion.  I remember a nuclear event took place — 8.8 in the Richter scale.  And they announced — I heard it on the radio — they announced that a massive — you know, an earthquake took place somewhere in Asia.  And then they said it was in North Korea.  And then they found out it was a nuclear test.  I said, “I never heard of a Richter scale in the high 8s.”


And if you look, there has been no missile launches.  They’ve blown up their missile area.  That’s going to take place.  That has not been written into the contract.  We’re going to give you the exact details on that.  But they secured a halt of all missiles and of all nuclear tests.  They secured the closure of their single primary nuclear test site.  All three of them — they’re in an area that’s common around each other — they secured the closure.


They secured the commitment to destroy the missile engine testing site.  That was not in your agreement.  I got that after we signed the agreement. I said, “Do me a favor.  You’ve got this missile engine testing site.  We know where it is because of the heat.”  It’s incredible the equipment we have, to be honest with you.  I said, “Can you close it up?”  He’s going to close it up.


We maintained the ability to continue to apply sanctions.  So we’re applying sanctions.  Now I had 300 sanctions that I was getting ready to put on last week.  And I said, you know, I can’t really put on sanctions when I’m meeting with — I thought it would be very disrespectful.  Three hundred very big ones, powerful ones.  And I said it would be disrespectful.


So, Jennifer, when you look at all of those things that we got — and when we got our hostages back, I didn’t pay $1.8 billion in cash like the hostages that came back from Iran, which was a disgraceful situation, what took place.


So we’ve gotten a lot.  So when I hear somebody in the media say that President Trump has agreed to meet — like, it’s not a big deal to meet. I think we should meet on a lot of different topics, not just this one.  And I really believe a lot of great things can happen.


Yes.  Go ahead, please.


Q    Sir, you just listed off a lot of things that you say you got in this meeting.  It wasn’t too long ago, though, that you said you defined the success of this meeting by North Korea giving up its nuclear weapons.


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, that’s what they’re doing.


Q    Well, can you talk about how —


THE PRESIDENT:  Sure.  That’s what they’re doing.  I mean, I don’t think the —


Q    — how you pressed Kim Jong Un for complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, I did, honestly —


Q    And can you why you didn’t secure those details in this agreement?


THE PRESIDENT:  Because there was no time.  I’m here one day.  We’re together for many hours intensively, but the process is now going to take place.  And I would be surprised, Mike, if they haven’t even started already.  They have started; they blew up their sites.  They blew up their testing site.


But I will say, he knew, prior to coming — you know, this wasn’t like a surprise.  It wasn’t like we’ve never discussed it.  We discussed it.  Mike discussed it very strongly with his counterpart in North Korea.  They knew that this was — let’s say they didn’t agree to that I couldn’t sign any agreement.  There was no agreement that could have been signed.  So they understood that.


And it wasn’t a big point today because, really, this had been taken care of, more than any other thing.  Because it was all about this.  This has been taken care of before we got here.  So when we brought that up today, you see the language.  It’s very strong.  It’s in the document.


Yes, ma’am.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  Could you talk about the military consequences for North Korea if they don’t follow through on the commitments that you’re talking about?  Could there be military action?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I don’t want to talk.  Yeah, I know.  That’s a tough thing to talk about because I don’t want to be threatening.  I don’t want to be threatening.  They understood that.  And you’ve seen what was, perhaps, going to happen.


And you know, Seoul has 28 million people.  We think we have big cities.  You look at New York, where it has 8 million people.  We think it’s a big city.  Seoul has 28 million people.  Think of that.  And it’s right next to the border.  It’s right next to the DMZ.  It’s right there.  I mean, if this would have happened, I think — you know, I’ve heard, oh, a hundred-thousand people.  I think you could have lost 20 million people, 30 million people.  This is really an honor for me to be doing this because I think, you know, potentially, you could have lost, you know, 30-, 40-, 50 million people.  The city of Seoul, one of the biggest cities in the world, is right next to the border.


Q    You once spoke about fire and fury.  Is that no longer the case?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, at that time we needed, perhaps, fire and fury.  Because we could not have allowed that kind of capability from the standpoint of the United States.  And certainly, Japan wasn’t going to allow it either.  Japan is right next door.


Q    One more thing.  Mr. President, could you tell us about the video that you showed before this?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.


Q    When did you show that to Kim?  What was the goal there?


THE PRESIDENT:  Today.  Yeah, we had it made up by some — I hope you liked it.  I thought it was good.  I thought it was interesting enough to show.  One in English and one in Korean.  And we had it made up.  I showed it to him today.  Actually, during the meeting — toward the end of the meeting.  And I think he loved it.  They were giving — we didn’t have a big screen like you have the luxury of having.  We didn’t need it because we had it on a cassette and — an iPad.  And they played it.  And about eight of their representatives were watching it, and I thought they were fascinated.


But I thought it was well done.  I showed it to you because that’s the future.  I mean, that could very well be the future.  And the other alternative is just not a very good alternative.  It’s just not good.  But I showed it because I really want him to do something.  Now, I don’t think I had to show it because I really believe he wants to — I think he wants to get it done.


Yes.  Go ahead.  How’s Staten Island Ferry doing?  Okay?  He wrote the best story about me with the Staten Island Ferry.  And after that, he’s never written a good story.


Q    That’s a long time ago, sir.


THE PRESIDENT:  I don’t know what happened.  It’s a long time ago.


Q    Mr. President, it’s been a busy week for you on the international stage.  You’re leaving this summit here in Singapore having determined that Kim Jong Un is a talented man.  You left the G7 Summit a few days ago in Canada having determined that Prime Minister Trudeau is weak and dishonest.  What do you say to America’s allies who worry that you might be jeopardizing our long-term alliances and who worry that you might be treating our historic friends as enemies and our historic enemies as friends?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first of all, I think it’s a very fair question.  I had a very good meeting with the G7.  And I left the meeting.  And, I’ll be honest, we are being taken advantage of by virtually every one of those countries.  Very, very seriously.  Now, the United States, because of bad management at the top, because of Presidents that didn’t care about trade or didn’t understand it or whatever reason.  For many years, with China being, obviously, the most successful at it, but the European Union is second — $151 billion we lost.  They were represented at the meeting.  And we’re being taken advantage of on trade.


Canada does have very big advantages over us in terms of trade deficits.  We have a big trade deficit with Canada, I was reading, where, oh, it’s actually a surplus.  Not a surplus.  It’s either 17, but it could actually be 100.  You know, they put out a document.  I don’t know if you saw it.  They didn’t want me to see it, but we found it.  Perhaps they were trying to show the power they have.  It’s close to $100 billion a year loss with Canada.


They don’t take our farm products — many of them.  They charge what was 270 percent, but somebody told me the other day that a few months ago they raised it to 295 percent for dairy products.  And it’s very unfair to our farmers, and it’s very unfair to the people of our country — the workers, the farmers, the companies.  And we are not able to trade.  They have tremendous barriers up.  They have tremendous tariffs.


So when I put in a countervailing tariff just to get us up a little bit so the balance isn’t so much — it’s like this — they said, “Oh, that’s so terrible.”  I said, “What’s terrible?”  We have to catch you a little bit.  We have to have a little balance.  Even if it’s not complete, we have to have a little balance.  I say this with many countries.


Anyway, we came — we finished the meeting.  Really, everybody was happy.  And I agreed to sign something.  I asked for changes; I demanded changes.  And those changes were made.  In fact, the picture with Angela Merkel, who I get along with very well, where I’m sitting there like this, that picture was we’re waiting for the document because I wanted to see the final document as changed by the changes that I requested.


That was a very friendly — I know it didn’t look friendly, and I know it was reported like sort of nasty both ways.  I was angry at her or she — actually, we were just talking, the whole group, about something unrelated to everything, very friendly, waiting for the document to come back so I could read it before I leave.


Anyway, I left and it was very friendly.  When I got onto the plane, I think that Justin probably didn’t know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions, and I see the television.  And he’s giving a news conference about how he will not be pushed around by the United States.  And I say, push him around?  We just shook hands.  It was very friendly.


Look, countries cannot continue to take advantage of us on trade.  The number are out.  Over the last couple of years, and over the last many years — but over the last couple of years, this country has lost $800 billion on trade with other countries, the biggest one being China.  Eight-hundred billion dollars.  A hundred fifty-one billion with the European Union.  They don’t take our agricultural products, barely.  They don’t take a lot of what we have, and yet they send Mercedes into us, they send BMWs into us by the millions.  It’s very unfair, and it’s very unfair to our workers.  And I’m going to straighten it out.  And it won’t even be tough.  Okay?  Thank you.


Go ahead.  Go ahead.


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  I would like to involve Congress, yes.  And no, I have a good relationship with Justin Trudeau.  I really did.  Other than he had a news conference that he had because he assumed I was in an airplane and I wasn’t watching.  He learned.  That’s going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada.  He learned.  You can’t do that.  You can’t do that.


We laughed.  We had a very good relationship.  I’ve had a good relationship with Justin.  I have a good relationship with all.  I have a very good relationship with Angela Merkel.  But on NATO, we’re paying 4.2 percent; she’s paying 1 percent of a much smaller GDP than we have.  We’re paying 4.2 percent on a much larger — we’re paying for — I mean, anyone can say — from 60 to 90 percent of NATO.  And we’re protecting countries of Europe.  And then on top of it, they kill us on trade.  So we just can’t have it that way.  It’s unfair to our taxpayers and to our people.


But no, I have a good relationship with Justin.  And I have a, I think, a very good relationship with Chairman Kim right now.  I really do.  I think — I hope it’s good because if it is, we’re going to solve a very big problem.  I think we’ve gone a long way to solving it today.


Should we keep going for a little while?  Sarah?  I don’t know.  It’s up to the legendary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.  Should we keep going, Sarah?  Okay, we’ll go.  Well, I don’t care.  Hey, you know, it just means we get home a little later in the evening.  Right?


Yeah.  Go ahead.  Sure.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.


Q    Hi, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  How are you?


Q    I’m good.


THE PRESIDENT:  Nice to see you.


Q    From The Straits Times of Singapore.  Welcome to the country.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.


Q    I hope you enjoyed our food.


THE PRESIDENT:  Beautiful country.  I did.


Q    I just wanted to find out.  You described this as a process.  What is the immediate next step?  Is there some ongoing dialogue —


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  We’re getting together next week to go into the details.


Q    And that’s (inaudible)?


THE PRESIDENT:  Secretary Pompeo.  Yeah.  Next week, with John Bolton and our entire team, to go over the details and to get this stuff done.  We want to get it done; he wants to get it done.  We’re also working very much with South Korea.  We’re working with Japan.  We’re working with China, to a lesser extent, but we’re working with China.


Q    And you are coming back to Singapore?


THE PRESIDENT:  I would come back gladly.  Your Prime Minister was fantastic.  We were with him yesterday.  He’s done a great job.  It was very welcoming.  It really, probably had — it probably made a difference, actually.  It’s a great place.


Thank you very much.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, ma’am.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  What was it about that first interaction with Chairman Kim this morning that that made you decide not to walk away after you said that you would know within the first minute if he was sincere or not?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.  I’ve said that about relationships.  I’ve said that about people.  You know in the first second.  Now, I was generous.  I said five seconds.  But you know in the first second, in some cases.  Sometimes that doesn’t work out.  But sometimes it does.


From the beginning, we got along.  But there’s been a lot of groundwork.  This wasn’t like we went and we started talking about — as you know, right?  We didn’t just come in and start talking about these very complex subjects that have been going on for 70 years.  We’ve been discussing this for months.  And, you know, once the rhetoric stopped, once they did a great thing –you know, North Korea did a great thing by going to the Olympics.  Because the Olympics — and President Moon will tell you this — the Olympics was not exactly doing great.  People didn’t feel like being bombed out of the Opening Ceremonies.  You know, they weren’t exactly selling tickets.  And as soon as the Chairman — Chairman Kim — said, “Let’s participate in the Olympics,” it sold like wildfire and was a great success as an Olympics.  It was a great success.  He did a great thing.


But since that time, pretty much since that time — because, as you know, a delegation came from South Korea who had just met with North Korea.  They came to the White House.  They told me lots of things, including the fact that they’d be willing to denuke.  We have one of their great people here today.  That they were willing to denuke.  And once that started, we have been really talking about that from the end of the Olympics when the whole delegation came to say various things, including denuking.


Q    If I may, a second question.  In the document that you signed earlier today, North Korea agreed to commit to denuclearization.  To borrow a phrase that you have used to criticize your predecessors and political opponents, how do you ensure that North Korea is not all talk, no action going forward?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think can you ensure anything?  Can I ensure that you’re going to be able to sit down properly when you sit down?  I mean, you can’t ensure anything.  All I can say is they want to make a deal.  That’s what I do.  My whole life has been deals.  I’ve done great at it, and that’s what I do.  And I know when somebody wants to deal, and I know when somebody doesn’t.  A lot of politicians don’t.  That’s not their thing, but it is my thing.


I mean, again, this really could have been done, I think, easier a long time ago.  But I know for a — I just feel very strongly — my instinct, my ability, or talent — they want to make a deal.  And making a deal is a great thing for the world.  It’s also a great thing for China because I can’t imagine that China has, you know, is happy with somebody having nuclear weapons so close.  So, you know, that’s — China was very helpful.


So I think he wants to make a deal.  Can anybody be certain?  But we’re going to be certain soon because the negotiations continue.  Okay?  Thank you very much.


Go ahead.


Q    You mentioned that you have raised extensively the issue of human rights with Chairman Kim.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    I wonder what you would say to the group of people who have no ability whatsoever to hear or to see this press conference — the 100,000 North Koreans kept in a network of gulags.  Have you betrayed them by legitimizing the regime in Pyongyang?


THE PRESIDENT:  No, I think I’ve helped them because I think things will change.  I think I’ve helped them.  There’s nothing I can say.  All I can do is do what I can do.  We have to stop the nuclearization.  We have to do other things, and that’s a very important thing.  So at a certain point, hopefully, you’ll be able to ask me a much more positive question or make a statement.


But not much I can do right now.  At a certain point, I really believe he’s going to do things about it.  I think they are one of the great winners today, that large group of people that you’re talking about.  I think, ultimately, they’re going to be one of the great winners as a group.


Yes, sir.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  Yeah.


Q    Would you ever consider removing the sanctions without significant improvement in the human rights situation?


THE PRESIDENT:  No.  I want significant improvement.  I want to know that it won’t be happening.  And again, once you start that process, there will be a point at which, even though you won’t be finished for a while because it can’t happen scientifically or mechanically, but you’re not going to be able to go back.  You know, once we reach that point, I’ll start to give that very serious thought.


Yes.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  You first.


Q    Mr. President, did you also discuss the cost of denuclearization and how North Korea is about to foot the bill while the crippling sanctions remain in place?  I’m from (inaudible) News Agency Singapore.


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think that South Korea and I think that Japan will help them very greatly.  I think they’re prepared to help them.  They know they’re going to have to help them.  I think they’re going to help them very greatly.  We won’t have to help them.  The United States has been paying a big price in a lot of different places.  But South Korea, which obviously is right next door, and Japan, which essentially is next door, they’re going to be helping them.  And I think they’re going to be doing a very generous job and a terrific job.  So they will be helping them.


Yes, ma’am.  Go ahead.  Behind.  Yes.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    I’d like to follow up on Steve’s question.  He asked you how long it would take to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula.  You said a long time.  What does that mean?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I don’t know, when you say a long time.  I think we will do it as fast as it can be done scientifically, as fast as it can be done mechanically.  I don’t think — I mean, I’ve read horror stories.  It’s a 15-year process.  Okay?  Assuming you wanted to do it quickly, I don’t believe that.  I think whoever wrote that is wrong.  But there will be a point at which, when you’re 20 percent through, you can’t go back.


I had an uncle who was a great professor for, I believe, 40 years at MIT.  And I used to discuss nuclear with him all the time.  He was a great expert.  He was a great, brilliant genius.  Dr. John Trump at MIT.  I think he was there 40 years, I was told.  In fact, the head of MIT sent me a book on my uncle.  But we used to talk about nuclear.  You’re talking about a very complex subject.  It’s not just like, “Oh, gee.  Let’s get rid of the nukes.”  It takes a period of time.


But the main period of time that I’m talking is that first period, when you hit a certain point you can’t go back.  It’s very hard to go back.


Q    And how long will that take?


THE PRESIDENT:  We don’t know, but it will go pretty quickly.


Go ahead.  Sure.


Q    Thanks, Mr. President.  I wanted to ask again on the sanctions campaign.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.


Q    You alluded at the very beginning that the Chinese are not doing as great a job securing the border as they were before.  You expressed some doubts when Kim went to see President Xi.  The Russian foreign minister was in Pyongyang and said there shouldn’t be any sanctions while these negotiations are under way.  And the South Koreans are now talking about restoring some form of trade.  So with all of those players appearing to be moving toward eroding sanctions, how can you keep the sanctions regime in place?  What leverage do you have on these countries?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think we have a lot of leverage.  I think we have tremendous leverage.  I do believe that China, despite my relationship with President Xi — a man who I told you I have great respect for and like, also, a lot.  You know, we’re having very tough talks on trade.  And I think that probably affects China somewhat.  But I have to do what I have to do.  And I think, over the last two months, the border is more open than it was when we first started.  But that is what it is.  We have to do it.  We have a tremendous deficit in trade, commonly known as a trade deficit.  We have a tremendous deficit in trade with China, and we have to do something about it.  We can’t continue to let that happen.


And I think that has had an impact on my relationship, in terms of the border.  I don’t think it has the relationship — you know, I don’t think it affects my feeling or my relationship to President Xi.  But when we first started, we weren’t ready to go that route.  And as we started preparing and getting ready to do that, I think that’s had an impact on, frankly, the border.  Which is a shame.  But I have to do it.  I have no choice.  For our country, I have to do it.


South Korea will do whatever is necessary to get a deal done.  And if that means we can’t trade, then I’m not going to trade.  They’re definitely not going to trade.  If they think — and they would do this with our concurrence — if they think that they can do some work because we’re very far down the line — we’re actually very far.  You know, that document, when you read it today, that’s far down the line.  That’s not something that just happened to be put together.  This was done over months.  And again, the rhetoric was important, and the sanctions were important.  I don’t even know which one was more important.  They were both important.


Yeah.  Go ahead.


Q    Mr. President, David Sanger for The New York Times.  I was wondering if you could give us some sense of whether the Chairman Kim told you how many nuclear weapons he believes he’s made, whether he’s willing to turn those over first, and then whether, in your mind, you need to do more than was done in the Iran deal for actually dismantling the — both the uranium and the plutonium processes.  And whether or not you had a sense that Chairman Kim really understood what that involves and had a timetable in his own mind of shutting that.


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, David, I can tell you he understands.  He understands it so well.  He understands it better than the people that are doing the work for him.  That is an easy one.  As far as what he has, it’s substantial.  Very substantial.  The timing will go quickly.  I believe you’ll see some good action.  I mean, as an example, one of the things with the missile site, I think you’re probably surprised to hear that — that was a throw-in at the end, the missile site.


But I really believe, David, that it’s going to go very quickly.  I really believe that it’s going to go fast.  And it is a very substantial arsenal.  There’s no question about it.  You know, I used to say maybe it’s all talk and no action.  But we have pretty good intelligence into that.  Although, probably less there than any other country.  You understand that maybe better than anybody in the room.  Probably less there than any other country.  But we have enough intelligence to know that what they have is very substantial.


This is why, David, I always say that this shouldn’t have taken place so late into the process.  Wouldn’t this have been better if it was 5 years ago or 20 years ago or 15 years ago and we didn’t have to worry about not having a successful meeting like today?  So — and I still love my first interview with you, David.  I still have that interview, actually.


Yeah.  Go ahead.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    (Inaudible) the second summit — if there is a second summit with Chairman Kim Jong Un, would it be in Pyongyang or Washington?


THE PRESIDENT:  We haven’t set that up.  We’ll probably need another summit.  We’ll probably need — or meeting.  We can use a different term.  But we’ll probably need another one.  We’ll probably — I will say this, we’re much further along than I would have thought.  I did not think we’d be here.  I thought — and I’ve told people — I didn’t want to build up people’s hopes too much.  I told people I thought that this would be a successful meeting if we got along, we developed a relationship, and we could have maybe gotten to this point in three or four months from now.  But it really happened very quickly.  A lot of that was because of the foundation that was, you know, put down before we met.  A lot of things happened very fast.


We didn’t have — as an example, bringing back the remains.  That was not one of the things that was on our agenda today.  I brought that up at the very end because so many people have talked to me about it.  And I brought it up at the very end.  And he was really very gracious.  Instead of saying, “Well, let’s talk about it the next time.”  He said, “It makes sense.  We will do it.”


And he knew — you know, they know where many of those incredible people are.  Where they’re buried along roads, along highways, along paths, usually, because our soldiers were moving back and forth and they had to move rapidly.  It’s very sad.  But he knew.  And that was brought up at the very end.  And you know, it was really great that he was able to do it.  A lot of people are going to be very happy about that.


Yes.  Go ahead, please.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    Emerald Robinson, One America News.  Congratulations.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.  Thank you for the nice way you treat us.  We appreciate it.  Really, it’s very good.  It’s really beautiful what you do.  Go ahead.


Q    So you —


THE PRESIDENT:  And now I’ll probably get this killer question.


Q    (Laughs.)  Well, I do want to talk about the future of North Korea.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.  It’s all right.


Q    Specifically the people are — Kim Jong Un is saying he’s wanting a brighter future with prosperity for his people, yet we know they’ve lived under oppression.  You showed him this video of what the future can be like.  But do you have an idea specifically of the model that you would like to go towards?  Economically, is he open to more economic freedom?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, it’s a good question.  So you saw a tape today, and that, I think, was done really well.  But that was done at the highest level of future development.  I told him, you may not want this.  You may want to do a much smaller version of this.  I mean, you’re going to do something.  But you may want to do a smaller version.  You may not want that with the trains and the everything.  You know, it’s super — everything the top.  And maybe you won’t want that.  It’s going to be up to them.  It’s going to be up to them.  It’s going to be up to the people what they want.  They may not want that.  I can understand that too.


But that was a version of what could happen, what could take place.  As an example, they have great beaches.  You see that whenever they’re exploding their cannons into the ocean, right?  I said, “Boy, look at the view.  Wouldn’t that make a great condo behind?”  And I explained, I said, “You know, instead of doing that, you could have the best hotels in the world right there.”  Think of it from a real estate perspective.  You have South Korea, you have China, and they own the land in the middle.  How bad is that, right?  It’s great.  But I told him, I said, you may not want to do what’s there.  You may want to do a smaller version of it or — you know.  And that could be.


Although, I tell you what — he looked at that tape, he looked at that iPad, and I’m telling you they really enjoyed it, I believe.  Okay?


Yeah.  Go ahead.  A couple more.  Okay.  We’ll do three more.  Yeah.  Go ahead.  Go.


Q    Brian Bennett from Time Magazine.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  Hi, Brian.  Am I on the cover again this week?  Boy, have I — so many covers.


Q    It’s entirely possible.


THE PRESIDENT:  Huh?  I know.  That’s okay.


Q    Do you now see Kim Jong Un as an equal?


THE PRESIDENT:  In what way?


Q    You just showed a video that showed you and Kim Jong Un on equal footing in discussing the future of —


THE PRESIDENT:  No.  I think that — I don’t view it that way.  See, I don’t view it that way.  I’ll do whatever it takes to make the world a safer place.  If I have to say I’m sitting on a stage — I mean, I understand what you’re getting at.  If I have to say I’m sitting on a stage with Chairman Kim and that’s going to get us to save 30 million lives — could be more than that — I’m willing to sit on the stage.  I’m willing to travel to Singapore very proudly, very gladly.


Again, I — you know, other than the fact that it is taking my time, they have given up a tremendous amount.  They’ve given it up even before.  And even add the Olympics to it.  You know, you could add the Olympics to the question.  They went to the Olympics.  They took an Olympics that was going to be a massive failure that maybe wouldn’t have even opened, and they made it a tremendous success by agreeing to participate.  Add that to the list of things that they’ve done.


So, Brian, if I can save millions of lives by coming here, sitting down, and establishing a relationship with someone who’s a very powerful man, who’s got firm control of a country, and that country has very powerful nuclear weapons, it’s my honor to do it.


Q    Are you concerned that the video you just showed could be used by Kim as propaganda to show him as an equal —


THE PRESIDENT:  No, I’m not concerned at all.  We can use that video for other countries.


Go ahead.


Q    Mr. President, in the year 2000, President Clinton got a request by Kim Jong Il.


THE PRESIDENT:  Got impressed?


Q    Got a request —


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh.


Q    From Kim Jong Il to travel to Pyongyang and meet him.  And Clinton refused.  He sent Secretary of State Albright.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.  He did a great deal.  And he spent $3 billion and got nothing.  And he started making nuclear weapons a day later.


Q    Mr. President, you, on the other hand, got the request and right away went here to meet him.  And do you understand those people who say that you gave him the ultimate present — the legitimacy to a regime who oppress its people without an ongoing process before you, as the U.S. President, as the leader of the free world, meet and shake hands with this leader of North Korea who is perceived to be oppressing brutally his own people?


THE PRESIDENT:  Okay.  Good.  I think we just answered the question.


Q    But do you understand those people?


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh, I understand them much better than you do.


Okay.  Yeah.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  Thank you very much.  Yes.


Q    Mr. President, Eliana Johnson with Politico.


THE PRESIDENT:  Sure.  Hi.


Q    Hi.  You mentioned a couple specific concessions that you got from Kim: the return of remains and the destruction of the nuclear site.  And I know you said that was an add-on —


THE PRESIDENT:  And much more.  And much more than that.


Q    Yeah.  I know you said the last thing was an add-on and it wasn’t in the agreement, but that he gave you his word.  If he doesn’t follow through on these things, what are you prepared to do in response?  And will you lose faith in this process?


THE PRESIDENT:  No.  I think he’ll do it.  I really believe that.  Otherwise, I wouldn’t be doing this.  I really believe it.  And it was really the engine testing site, in addition to all of the other things that they’ve agreed to do.  It was the — they have a very powerful engine testing site that, again, we’re able to see because of the heat that it emits.  And, yeah, I’m able to — I’m very happy.  I’ll tell you what — I’m very happy with those two points — the two points you mentioned.


But I think you might be referring to the thing that’s not in, which is the engine testing site.  I think he’s — I think — honestly, I think he’s going to do these things.  I may be wrong.  I mean, I may stand before you in six months and say, “Hey, I was wrong.”  I don’t know that I’ll ever admit that, but I’ll find some kind of an excuse.  (Laughter.)


Okay, one or two.  One more.  Come on.  Yeah, go ahead.  Sure.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.  Thank you.


Q    (Inaudible) with Shenzhen Media Group.  I just would like to know, will you call Chinese President Xi when you come back to D.C. to discuss about achievements you made today with Chairman Kim?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  I will.


Q    And what’s your expectation about China’s role to accelerate the process to establish a long-term peace mechanism?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, my expectation about China is that China is a great country with a great leader, and a friend of mine.  And I really believe that he’s happy that we’ve made this kind of progress.  And I’ve heard from him.  But I will be calling him very shortly.  Maybe even before I land.  Okay?


And I have to say, you know — and the United States is a great country.  And we have set records economically — over $7 trillion in net worth addition to what we have.  And we are almost twice the size, the economy of the United States.  Nobody talks about this, because you do hear a lot about China, rightfully so.  But the United States, now, is almost twice the size of the economy of China.  We have a great country and we’re on a correct path.


Okay.  One more.  That will be it.


Q    Mr. President, from South Korea.


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh, South Korea?  Where’s South Korea?  I think you deserve — go ahead.  Go.  You deserve one.  Yes.  You deserve one.


Q    I’ve got two questions for you, Mr. President.  First, you mentioned earlier that you’re going to talk with South Korean President Moon Jae-in over the phone.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    What do you plan to discuss with him?


THE PRESIDENT:  I just want to tell him about the meeting.  Very successful.  And he’ll be very much involved in the final negotiation.  He’s a very, very fine gentleman.  Also a friend of mine.  And I look forward to speaking.  He’ll be very happy when he hears about — I’ve already sent word to him about what happened.  I sent the document to him, actually, and all of the details behind the document.  So I’ll be talking to him very shortly.


Q    If I may ask another question.  In signing the peace treaty, do you hope to — do you plan to work this out with North Korea’s Chairman Kim only, or what do you think about the involvement of South Korea and China as the signatories?


THE PRESIDENT:  I’d like to have them involved also.  There’s a question as to whether or not we’re supposed to or whether or not we legally have to.  I don’t care.  I think it would be great to have China involved and also, of course, South Korea.  Okay?


Q    Is there a transcript of (inaudible)?


THE PRESIDENT:  What?


Q    Is there a transcript of (inaudible)?


THE PRESIDENT:  Mike, do they have a transcript?  They probably have a rough transcript, which you can give us, if you have one.


Q    So that was recorded?


THE PRESIDENT:  No, they didn’t record it.  I don’t think they recorded it.  Are there any recordings of it?  I wish there were.  Because it is interesting stuff.


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  Say it?


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  I don’t.  We probably have some notes or something.  But they have, actually, detailed notes, I would imagine.  But we had a great conversation.  It was a very heart-felt conversation.


Q    How do you believe (inaudible) verify —


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I don’t have to verify because I have one of the great memories of all time.  So I don’t have to.  Okay?  Okay?


Q    What about the previous phone calls you had with Kim Jong Un?  You had phone calls (inaudible).


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, but I don’t want to discuss it.  But we did is we’ve had numerous discussions.  We’ve had very important relationships established at Mike’s level and other levels.  In fact, a couple of people are here from, as you know, from North Korea.  They’re in the room.  We have a few people in the back also, in the room.


So when we went into this final agreement, very importantly, we really didn’t go in cold.  We went in with tremendous relationship and tremendous knowledge.  And I think that’s why we got it done.


So I’m going to head back.  I don’t know about you folks, but it’s been a long time since I’ve taken it easy.  So now we can take it a little bit easy, and then the work begins again.  And I appreciate everybody being here.  I hope we’ve answered your questions.  And thank you very much.  And sort of congratulations to everybody, because this is, really — to me it’s a very important event in world history.  And to be really true to myself, I have to add, I want to get it completed.  ”


So Mike, our whole team has to get to work and get it completed.  Because otherwise, we’ve done a good job.  But if you don’t the ball over the goal line, it doesn’t mean enough.  Okay?


So thank you, and sort of congratulations to everybody in the room.  Thank you very much.  Appreciate it.  Thank you.  (Applause.)


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THE PRESIDENT:  Well, thank you very much, everybody.  We appreciate it.  We’re getting ready to go back.  We had a tremendous 24 hours.  We’ve had a tremendous three months, actually, because this has been going on for quite a while.  That was a tape that we gave to Chairman Kim and his people, his representatives.  And it captures a lot.  It captures what could be done.  And that’s a great — a great place.  It has the potential to be an incredible place.  Between South Korea — if you think about it — and China, it’s got tremendous potential.  And I think he understands that and he wants to do what’s right.


It’s my honor today to address the people of the world, following this very historic summit with Chairman Kim Jong Un of North Korea.  We spent very intensive hours together, and I think most of you have gotten the signed document, or you will very shortly.  It’s very comprehensive.  It’s going to happen.


I stand before you as an emissary of the American people to deliver a message of hope and vision, and a message of peace.


Let me begin by thanking our incredible hosts in Singapore, especially Prime Minister Lee, a friend of mine.  This is a country of profound grace and beauty, and we send our warmest wishes to every citizen of Singapore, who really made this visit so important and so pleasant, despite all of the work and all of the long hours.


I also want to thank President Moon of South Korea.  He’s working hard.  In fact, I’ll be speaking to him right after we’re finished.  Prime Minister Abe of Japan — a friend of mine — just left our country, and he wants what’s right for Japan and for the world.  He’s a good man.  And a very special person, President Xi of China, who has really closed up that border — maybe a little bit less so over the last couple of months, but that’s okay.  But he really has.  And he’s a terrific person and a friend of mine, and really a great leader of his people.  I want to thank them for their efforts to help us get to this very historic day.


Most importantly, I want to thank Chairman Kim for taking the first bold step toward a bright new future for his people.  Our unprecedented meeting — the first between an American President and a leader of North Korea — proves that real change is indeed possible.


My meeting with Chairman Kim was honest, direct, and productive.  We got to know each other well in a very confined period of time, under very strong, strong circumstance.  We’re prepared to start a new history and we’re ready to write a new chapter between our nations.


Nearly 70 years ago — think of that; 70 years ago — an extremely bloody conflict ravaged the Korean Peninsula.  Countless people died in the conflict, including tens of thousands of brave Americans.  Yet, while the armistice was agreed to, the war never ended.  To this day, never ended.  But now we can all have hope that it will soon end.  And it will.  It will soon end.


The past does not have to define the future.  Yesterday’s conflict does not have to be tomorrow’s war.  And as history has proven over and over again, adversaries can indeed become friends.  We can honor the sacrifice of our forefathers by replacing the horrors of battle with the blessings of peace.  And that’s what we’re doing and that’s what we have done.


There is no limit to what North Korea can achieve when it gives up its nuclear weapons and embraces commerce and engagement with the rest of the world — that really wants to engage.  Chairman Kim has before him an opportunity like no other: to be remembered as the leader who ushered in a glorious new era of security and prosperity for his people.


Chairman Kim and I just signed a joint statement in which he reaffirmed his “unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”  We also agreed to vigorous negotiations to implement the agreement as soon as possible.  And he wants to do that.  This isn’t the past.  This isn’t another administration that never got it started and therefore never got it done.


Chairman Kim has told me that North Korea is already destroying a major missile engine testing site.  That’s not in your signed document; we agreed to that after the agreement was signed.  That’s a big thing — for the missiles that they were testing, the site is going to be destroyed very soon.


Today is the beginning of an arduous process.  Our eyes are wide open, but peace is always worth the effort, especially in this case.  This should have been done years ago.  This should have been resolved a long time ago, but we’re resolving it now.


Chairman Kim has the chance to seize an incredible future for his people.  Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace.  The current state of affairs cannot endure forever.


The people of Korea — North and South — are profoundly talented, industrious, and gifted.  These are truly gifted people.  They share the same heritage, language, customs, culture, and destiny.  But to realize their amazing destiny, to reunite their national family, the menace of nuclear weapons will now be removed.


In the meantime, the sanctions will remain in effect.  We dream of a future where all Koreans can live together in harmony, where families are reunited and hopes are reborn, and where the light of peace chases away the darkness of war.  This bright future is within — and this is what’s happening.  It is right there.  It’s within our reach.  It’s going to be there.  It’s going to happen.  People thought this could never take place.  It is now taking place.  It’s a very great day.  It’s a very great moment in the history of the world.


And Chairman Kim is on his way back to North Korea.  And I know for a fact, as soon as he arrives, he’s going to start a process that’s going to make a lot of people very happy and very safe.


So it’s an honor to be with everybody today.  The media — this is a big gathering of media, I will say.  It makes me feel very uncomfortable.  (Laughter.)  But it is what it is.  People understand that this is something very important to all of us, including yourselves and your families.


대단히 감사합니다. 여러분 지난 24시간 동안 아주 대단한 시간 이었습니다 사실 3개월이 그랬죠. 꽤나 오래 진행되어 온 일이었습니다. 김정은 위원장과 보좌진들께 감사드립니다. 그들이 보여준 행동은 앞으로 어떤 일들이 있을지에 대하여 많은 것을 시사한다고 생각합니다. 그리고 한국에 대해서 생각하시면 그리고 대한민국과 중국과의 사이에서도 대단한 잠재력이 있으리라고 생각합니다. 


김정은 위원장은 이것을 잘 이해하고 있고 옳은 길을 택하고자 하고 있습니다. 전 세계의 모든 사람들이 역사적인 정상회담을 보고 있는 여러분께 발표 드리게 되어서 영광입니다. 


김정은 위원장과 저는 아주 긴밀하게 함께 여러 몇 시간을 함께 보내면서 여러분께 조만간 전달될 그 포괄적인 문서의 내용에 대해서 이야기를 했습니다. 미국 국민들을 대신하여 여러분 앞에 희망과 비전 그리고 평화의 메세지를 전달하게 되었습니다. 가장 먼저 싱가포르 리센룽 총리께 저의 친구이기도 한 총리님께 감사를 드립니다. 


싱가포르는 대단히 우아하고 아름다운 국가이며 따뜻한 우리 국민들의 마음을 싱가포르의 모든 국민들에게 전달합니다. 이번 방문을 너무나 중요하고 또 너무나 즐겁게 만들어 주셨습니다. 많은 업무가 있었고 또 오랜 시간이었지만 그럼에도 불구하고 즐거웠습니다. 그리고 대한민국의 문재인 대통령에게도 감사의 말씀을 전합니다. 성실하게 많은 일을 진행해 주셨습니다. 일본의 아베 총리께도 저 역시 저의 친구이신데요. 조금 전에 미국을 떠나셨는데 일본을 위해서 그리고 전 세계를 위해서 옳은 것을 원하고 있습니다. 특별히 또한 시진핑 주석께도 감사를 전합니다. 시진핑 주석은 그 국경을 지난 몇 개월은 조금 허술했을 수도 있지만 어찌됐든 그 국경을 강화함 한 데 대한 감사의 말씀을 드립니다. 대단히 뛰어난 지도자이시고 저의 가까운 친구이기도 합니다. 이 모든 국가 정상들께 감사의 말씀을 전합니다. 오늘 이 역사적인 날까지 오는 데 모두가 많은 일을 해주셨습니다. 특별히 김정은 위원장에게 첫 번째로 대담하고 북한 국민을 위한 밝은 미래로 첫 걸음을 내딛은 데 대하서 감사를 드립니다. 


전례 없었던 현직 미국 대통령과 북한 국가 정상의 만남이라는 것은 앞으로 변화가 분명히 일어날 수 있다고 보여준다고 생각합니다. 김정은 위원장과 저의 만남은 솔직했고 생산적이었습니다. 서로에 대해서 많은 것을 배웠습니다. 그리고 아주 강하고 어려운 상황 속에서도 이 같은 대화를 진행했습니다. 새로운 역사를 열어갈 준비가 되어 있습니다. 양 국가 간 새로운 시대를 열어갈 준비가 되어 있습니다. 


70년입니다. 70년 전에 피로 얼룩진 전쟁이 한반도를 폐허로 남겼습니다. 수많은 사람들이 이 갈등의 결과로 사망했습니다. 그리고 수만 명의 미국인들이 용감한 미국인들이 목숨을 잃었습니다. 휴전으로 끝났기 때문에 사실 전쟁이 사실상 끝나지는 못했습니다. 그런데 우리가 모두 희망하는 것은 전쟁이 곧 끝나리라는 사실입니다. 


과거는 미래를 정의할 필요가 없습니다. 이 어제의 갈등은 내일의 전쟁을 의미하지 않아도 됩니다. 역사가 반복해서 우리에게 보여주는 것은 적대국들이 우방이 될 수 있다는 것입니다. 우리는 선조들의 희생을 통해서 끔찍한 전쟁을 아름다운 평화로 바꿔갈 수 있다고 확신합니다. 북한이 이룰 수 있는 것에 대해서는 의심의 여지가 없습니다. 핵 무기를 포기하고 상업을 포용하고 전 국제 무대에 나아올 때 그들이 이룰 것이 대단하다는 것에 대한 이견이 없습니다. 김정은 위원장은 전에 한 번도 없었던 기회가 주어졌습니다. 김정은 위원장은 안보와 번영을 국민에게 가져다준 전례 없는 지도자로 기록될 것입니다. 


김정은 위원장과 나는 방금 전에 그의 흔들림 없는 한반도의 비핵에 대한 의지를 확인하였습니다. 우리는 또한 추후에 계속해서 본 성명에서 합의한 내용을 충분히 이행할 수 있도록 하는 후속 조치를 취하기로 마음을 모았습니다. 저의 행정부는 미국의 이전 행정부와 다릅니다. 한 번도 이 같은 일을 시작하지 못했고 끝내지 못한 그들과 다릅니다. 


김정은 위원장은 이미 북한 측이 주요 미사일 엔진 실험장을 폐기하고 있다고 얘기해 주었습니다. 여러분께 배포해 드린 성명서에는 나와 있지 않은 내용입니다. 왜냐하면 서명한 이후에 저희가 추가적으로 합의를 했기 때문입니다. 그래서 미사일 시험장이 아주 빠른 시일 내에 폐기될 것이라고 약속을 했습니다. 


오늘은 우리가 크게 열린 미래로 나아가는 기회를 주고 평화는 항상 많은 노력이 필요합니다. 수년 전부터 진즉에 했어야 하는 문제입니다. 해결했어야 하는 문제입니다. 하지만 지금 우리는 이 문제를 해결하고 있습니다. 김정은 위원장은 북한 주민들을 위해서 놀라운 미래를 열어갈 수 있는 기회가 있습니다. 누구나 전쟁은 발발할 수 있습니다. 하지만 가장 용기 있는 자만이 평화를 이룰 수 있습니다. 한국 즉 북한 국민들은 그리고 남한 모두 국민은 대단하게 재능을 가지고 있고 성실하고 많은 재능이 있는 사람입니다. 이 국민은 동일한 유산과 문화와 언어와 운명을 공유하고 있습니다. 이들의 뛰어난 그 운명을 실현하기 위해서 그리고 떨어져 헤어져 있는 가족들이 함께 오기 위해서는 핵무기의 폐기가 중요합니다. 그 과정 중에 북한에 대한 제재는 지속될 것입니다. 언젠가 모든 한국인들이 화합 속에서 함께 살아가고 헤어졌던 가족들이 다시 한번 만나고 그리고 평화의 빛이 전쟁의 어둠을 이겨낼 수 있는 날을 고대합니다. 


이 밝은 미래가 바로 우리가 직시하고 있는 상황입니다. 손만 뻗으면 닿을 수 있습니다. 이것은 반드시 일어날 것입니다. 사람들은 이와 같은 날이 다시는 오지 않으리라고 올 수 없으리라고 생각했지만 우리는 그 현장에 와 있습니다. 대단한 날이고 역사적으로 세계 역사적으로 아주 중요한 멋진 날입니다.


김정은 위원장은 북한으로 지금 귀국 중입니다. 도착하자마자 김정은 위원장은 모든 굉장히 많은 사람들을 행복하고 안전하게 할 수 있는 절차를 시작할 것입니다. 이곳의 기자분들과 함께, 많은 분들이 오셨는데요. 여기 설 수 잇게 되어서 대단히 영광입니다. 물론 기자들이 많아서 상당히 불편합니다만. 어쩔 수 없죠. 사람들은 이것이 전 세계에 우리 모두에 굉장히 중요하다는 것을 이해하고 있습니다.


(번역출처 : 나무위키) 





So thank you very much for being here.  We’ll take some questions.  Wow.  That’s a lot of questions.  Go ahead.  Sure, go ahead.  NBC.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  Two questions for you, if you don’t mind.  First, the man you met today, Kim Jong Un, as you know, has killed family members, has starved his own people, is responsible for the death of Otto Warmbier.  Why are you so comfortable calling him “very talented”?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, he is very talented.  Anybody that takes over a situation like he did, at 26 years of age, and is able to run it, and run it tough — I don’t say he was nice or I don’t say anything about it — he ran it.  Very few people, at that age — you can take one out of ten thousand, probably, couldn’t do it.


Otto Warmbier is a very special person, and he will be for a long time, in my life.  His parents are good friends of mine.  I think, without Otto, this would not have happened.  Something happened, from that day.  It was a terrible thing.  It was brutal.  But a lot of people started to focus on what was going on, including North Korea.


I really think that Otto is someone who did not die in vain.  I told this to his parents.  Special young man.  And I have to say, special parents, special people.  Otto did not die in vain.  He had a lot to do with us being here today.  Okay?  Thank you very much.


Q    Mr. President, that second question for you, sir, was on the security — the second question, sir —


THE PRESIDENT:  Go ahead.


Q    — on the security assurances you talked about in your statement.  Can you be specific about what assurances you are willing to give to Kim Jong Un?  Does that include reducing military capabilities?


THE PRESIDENT:  No.


Q    And just to follow up on your answer —


THE PRESIDENT:  No, we’re not reducing anything.  We’re not reducing.  At some point, I have to be honest — and I used to say this during my campaign, as you know, probably, better than most — I want to get our soldiers out.  I want to bring our soldiers back home.  We have, right now, 32,000 soldiers in South Korea, and I’d like to be able to bring them back home.  But that’s not part of the equation right now.  At some point, I hope it will be, but not right now.


We will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money, unless and until we see the future negotiation is not going along like it should.  But we’ll be saving a tremendous amount of money.  Plus, I think it’s very provocative.


Yes, John.  Yes, John, go ahead.  Oh, go ahead.  I’m sorry, I thought you were John Roberts.  I looked at you, you just like —


Q    It’s all right.


THE PRESIDENT:  Much better, right?


Q    Frequently — we’re frequently confused, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    Mr. President, this joint statement does not talk about verifiable or irreversible denuclearization.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.


Q    Was that a concession on the part of the United States?


THE PRESIDENT:  No, not at all.  Because if you look at it, I mean, it said we are going to — let’s see here — it will be gone.  I don’t think you can be anymore plain than what we’re asking — “issues related to the establishment of the new U.S. DPRK relations” — the building.  We talk about the guarantees, and we talk about “unwavering commitment to the complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”  This is the document that we just signed.


Q    Did you discuss with Chairman Kim methods to verify, either with the United States or international organizations, that very process?  And do you have a timetable —


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, we did.  Yes, we did.  And we’ll be verifying.


Q    Can you give that to us?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, we’ll be verifying.  It will be verified.


Q    How is that going to be achieved, Mr. President?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, it’s going to be achieved by having a lot of people there, and as we develop a certain trust.  And we think we have done that.  Secretary Pompeo has been really doing a fantastic job — his staff, everybody.  As we do that, we’re going to have a lot of people there, and we’re going to be working with them on a lot of other things.  But this is complete denuclearization of North Korea, and it will be verified.


Q    Will those people be Americans or international —


THE PRESIDENT:  Uh, combinations of both.  Combinations of both.  And we have talked about it, yes.


Yeah, go ahead.  Be nice.  Be respectful.


Q    I’ll be very respectful, sir.  What did Kim Jong Un say to you to give you the confidence that, for once in the history of North Korea, they are not cheating the system, and gaming the world, and gaming the people who will have to go in and make sure that they’re actually giving up their nuclear arsenal?  What did he say to you?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, I mean, very fair question.  He actually mentioned the fact that they proceeded down a path in the past, and, ultimately, as you know, nothing got done.  In one case, they took billions of dollars — during the Clinton regime — took billions of dollars and nothing happened.  That was a terrible thing, and he actually brought it up to me.


And he said we have never gone this far.  I don’t think they’ve ever had the confidence, frankly, in a President that they have right now for getting things done and having the ability to get things done.  And he was very firm in the fact that he wants to do this.  I think he might want to do this as much or even more than me because they see a very bright future for North Korea.


So you never know.  Right?  We never know.  But I’ll tell you what, we signed a very comprehensive document today, and I think most of you have been given that document.  But we signed a very, very comprehensive document, and I believe he’s going to live up to that document.  In fact, when he lands — which is going to be shortly — I think that he will start that process right away.


Q    Do you trust him, Mr. President?


THE PRESIDENT:  I do.  I do.  I can only say that I know him for — really well, it’s been very rhetorical, as you know.  I think, without the rhetoric, it wouldn’t have happened.  I think without other things going along — I think the establishment of a new team was very important.  We have a great team.  But I do, I think he wants to get it done.  I really feel that very strongly.


Oh, there’s John.  I think — you know, you two guys look alike when the light is right on the — the hair is very similar.  Let me see, who has better hair?  He’s got pretty good hair, John, I hate to —


Q    It’s the angelic glow of the backlighting, Mr. President, that makes us look so similar.  Of course, the denuclearization — nuclear weapons and biological weapons and whatnot — is one problem in North Korea.  Another huge problem is the horrible record that they have on human rights.  Was that discussed at all?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    Is that something that you will tackle in the future?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, it was discussed.  It will be discussed more in the future — human rights.  What was also discussed in great detail, John, was that fact that, you know, we have — and I must have had just countless calls and letters and tweets, anything you can do — they want the remains of their sons back.  They want the remains of their fathers, and mothers, and all of the people that got caught into that really brutal war, which took place, to a large extent, in North Korea.  And I asked for it today, and we got it.  That was a very last minute.  The remains will be coming back.  They’re going to start that process immediately.


But so many people, even during the campaign, they’d say, “Is there any way you can work with North Korea to get the remains of my son back or my father back?”  So many people asked me this question.  And, you know, I said, “Look, we don’t get along too well with that particular group of people.”  But now we do.  And he agreed to that so quickly and so nice — it was really a very nice thing, and he understands it.  He understands it.


So for the thousands and thousands — I guess way over 6,000 that we know of, in terms of the remains, they’ll be brought back.


Q    The POW-MIA issue clearly is a very important one for thousands of Americans.


THE PRESIDENT:  Especially to a lot of people that are —


Q    But what do you, President Trump, expect Kim Jong Un to do about the human rights record regarding the North Korean people?


THE PRESIDENT:  Right.  It was discussed.  It was discussed relatively briefly compared to denuclearization.  Well, obviously, that’s where we started and where we ended.  But they will be doing things, and I think he wants to do things.  I think he wants to — you’d be very surprised.  Very smart.  Very good negotiator.  Wants to do the right thing.


You know, he brought up the fact that, in the past, they took dialogue far — they never went — they never were like we are.  There’s never been anything like what’s taken place now.  But they went down the line.  Billions of dollars were given, and you know, the following day the nuclear program continued.  But this is a much different time, and this is a much different President, in all fairness.  This is very important to me.  This is one of the — perhaps, one of the reasons that I — one, I campaigned on this issue, as you know very well, John.


Okay.  Whoever those people are.  I cannot see you with all the lights, but you don’t look like either of the two.  Yeah, go ahead.  Sure.  Go ahead.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  And first of all, congratulations.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.  Appreciate it.


Q    Can you touch on the issue of a peace treaty?  And also, will you travel to Pyongyang anytime soon?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, at a certain time, I will.  I said that will be a day that I look very much forward to, at the appropriate time.  And I also will be inviting Chairman Kim, at the appropriate time, to the White House.  I think it’s really going to be something that will be very important.  And he has accepted.  I said, at the appropriate time.  We want to go a little bit further down the road.


But what we signed today was a lot of things included.  And then you have things that weren’t included that we got after the deal was signed.  I’ve done that before in my life.  We didn’t put it in the agreement because we didn’t have time.  And I think most of you have been handed out the agreement or soon will.  But I —

 

Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh, you have not?  Okay.  Well, if you could have those agreements passed out.  We just finished them, just a little while ago.  But if you could have the agreements passed out, we’ll — you’ll see what we’re talking about.


Yes, sir.  Go ahead.


Q    I will second the congratulations, President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    What part did Japan play?  And did the abduction issue come up?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    And also, the fate of the Christians?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    And the follow-up question is when will you be doing an interview with Japanese TV?  Fifty-thousand American troops are in Japan.  Congratulations, again.


THE PRESIDENT:  That’s true.  Fifty-thousand great troops.  That’s true.  Yeah, it did — abduction.  Absolutely.  This is Prime Minister Abe’s — one of his, certainly — other than the whole denuking subject — certainly his, I would say, his main point.  And I brought it up.  Absolutely.  And they’re going to be working on that.  It will be — we didn’t put it down in the document, but it will be worked on.


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  Christians, yes.  We are — brought it up very strongly.  You know, Franklin Graham spent — spent and spends a tremendous amount of time in North Korea.  He’s got it very close to his heart.  It did come up, and things will be happening.  Okay?  Thank you.  Great question.


Yes, Jon.  Go ahead.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you, Jon.


Q    Returning to the question of human rights, you spoke very powerfully on the issue during your State of the Union Address.  You showed that — you had the defector in the First Lady’s box with the crutches, who escaped.  And you, at that point, said that North Korea has more brutally oppressed its people than any other regime on Earth.  Do you still believe that is the case having sat down with Kim Jong Un?  And does he need to change that?


THE PRESIDENT:  Right.  Jon, I believe it’s a rough situation over there.  There’s no question about it.  And we did discuss it today pretty strongly.  I mean, knowing what the main purpose of what we were doing is: denuking.  But discussed it at pretty good length.  We’ll be doing something on it.  It’s rough.  It’s rough in a lot of places, by the way.  Not just there.  But it’s rough, and we will continue that.  And I think, ultimately, we’ll agree to something.  But it was discussed at length outside of the nuclear situation, one of the primary topics.


Q    But do you think that needs to change to bring on this glorious new era you’ve talked about?  Are they going to have to —


THE PRESIDENT:  I think it will change.  Yeah.  I think it probably has to, but I think it will.  Yeah.  Thank you.  Thank you very much.


Steve.  That’s you, Steve?  Right there.


Q    Yes, sir.  Thank you.  What timetable do you envision for their denuclearization?  And in the meantime, are you thinking about easing any sanctions?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, you know, scientifically, I’ve been watching and reading a lot about this, and it does take a long time to pull off complete denuclearization.  It takes a long time.  Scientifically, you have to wait certain periods of time, and a lot of things happen.  But…


Q    Having sat down with Kim Jong Un.  And does he have to change that?


THE PRESIDENT:  Jon, I believe it’s a rough situation over there.  There’s no question about it.  And we did discuss it today pretty strongly.  I mean, knowing what — the main purpose of what we were doing is: denuking.  But discussed at pretty good length.  We’ll be doing something on it.  It’s rough.  It’s rough in a lot of places, by the way — not just there.  But it’s rough.  And we will continue that, and I think, ultimately, we’ll agree to something.  But it was discussed at length.  Outside of — outside of the nuclear situation, one of the primary topics.


Q    But do you think that needs to change to bring on this glorious new era you’ve talked about?  Are they going to have to —


THE PRESIDENT:  I think it will change, yeah.  I think it probably has to.  But I think it will.  Yeah.


Thank you.  Thank you very much.


Steve?  That’s you, Steve?  Right there.


Q    Yes, sir.  Thank you.  What timetable do you envision for their denuclearization?  And in the meantime, are you thinking about easing any sanctions?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, you know, scientifically, I’ve been watching and reading a lot about this, and it does take a long time to pull off complete denuclearization.  It takes a long time.  Scientifically, you have to wait certain periods of time, and a lot of things happen.  But despite that, once you start the process, it means it’s pretty much over; you can’t use them.  That’s the good news.  And that’s going to start very — very soon.  I believe that’s going to start very soon.  We will do it as fast as it can mechanically and physically be done, Steve.


Q    And the sanctions?


THE PRESIDENT:  The sanctions will come off when we are sure that the nukes are no longer a factor.  Sanctions played a big role, but they’ll come off at that point.  I hope it’s going to be soon, but they’ll come off.  As you know, and as I’ve said, the sanctions right now remain.  But at a certain point, I actually look forward to taking them off.  And they’ll come off when we know we’re down the road — where it’s not going to happen, nothing is going to happen.  Okay?


Yes, go ahead.  Please.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    Congratulations on this historic summit.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.  Congratulations to everybody, by the way.  Congratulations to everybody.


Go ahead.


Q    You signed a document with Kim Jong Un.  It’s essentially a piece of paper.  Yesterday, we had a briefing from the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.  He said the following: “Many Presidents previously have signed off on pieces of paper only to find that the North Koreans either didn’t promise what we thought they had, or actually reneged on those promises.”  What makes this time different, Mr. President?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, you have a different administration.  You have a different President.  You have a different Secretary of State.  You have people that are — you know, it’s very important to them.  And we get it done.  The other groups, maybe it wasn’t a priority.  I don’t think they could have done it if it was a priority, frankly.  I don’t think they honestly could have done it even if it was a priority.


And it would have been easier back then.  It would have been — for me, it would have been much easier if this were 10 years ago or 5 years ago.  And I’m not just blaming President Obama.  I mean, this goes back — for 25 years, this should have happened.  I was given a very tough hand.  I was given this, I was given the Iran deal, and plenty of other problems.


But we are — we’re doing really well.  And the Iran deal, I have to be honest, I did it because nuclear is always number one to me.  Nuclear is number one.


But on the Iran deal, I think Iran is a different country now than it was three or four months ago.  I don’t think they’re looking so much to the Mediterranean.  I don’t think they’re looking so much at Syria, like they were, with total confidence.  I don’t think they’re so confident right now.


But I hope — with that being said, I hope that, at the appropriate time, after these sanctions kick in — and they are brutal, what we’ve put on Iran — I hope that they’re going to come back and negotiate a real deal, because I’d love to be able to do that.  But right now, it’s too soon for that.


Yes, please.


Q    Mr. President, you also didn’t talk about establishing diplomatic relations, exchanging ambassadors.  How long before that happens?


THE PRESIDENT:  Good question.  Hopefully soon.  But we’ll have to get things moving first.  Very — a little bit early for that.  We have to get things moving.


Yes, go ahead.  Hi.


Q    Can you clarify, when you said you were stopping “war games,” so you are stopping the military exercises with South Korea?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, we’ve done exercises for a long period of time, working with South Korea.  And we call them “war games,” and I call them “war games.”  And they’re tremendously expensive.  The amount of money that we spend on that is incredible.  And South Korea contributes, but not 100 percent, which is certainly a subject that we have to talk to them about also.  And that has to do with the military expense and also the trade.


So we’re doing that.  We actually have a new deal with South Korea, in terms of the trade deal, but we have to talk to them.  We have to talk to many countries about treating us fairly.


But the war games are very expensive.  We pay for a big majority of them.  We fly in bombers from Guam.  I said — when I first started, I said, “Where do the bombers come from?”  “Guam.  Nearby.”  I said, “Oh, great, nearby.  Where’s nearby?”  “Six and a half hours.”  Six and a half hours — that’s a long time for these big massive planes to be flying to South Korea to practice and then drop bombs all over the place, and then go back to Guam.  I know a lot about airplanes; it’s very expensive.  And I didn’t like it.


And what I did say is — and I think it’s very provocative, I have to tell you, Jennifer, it’s a very provocative situation when I see that, and you have a country right next door.  So under the circumstances that we are negotiating a very comprehensive, complete deal, I think it’s inappropriate to be having war games.


So, number one, we save money — a lot.  And number two, it really is something that I think they very much appreciate it.


Q    Does North Korea give you something in return, though?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, we’ve gotten — you know, I’ve heard that.  I mean, some of the people that — I don’t know, maybe they really mean it.  I don’t always want to go against the press because I just don’t — especially not today, this is too important.  But I noticed that some of the people were saying that the President has agreed to meet, he has given up so much.  I gave up nothing.  I’m here.  I haven’t slept in 25 hours, but I thought it was appropriate to do — because we have been negotiating for literally around the clock with them, and with us, and with John, and with Mike, and a whole team of very talented people.


But we haven’t given up anything, other than — you’re right, I agreed to meet.  And I think the meeting was every bit as good for the United States as it was for North Korea.  But I just wrote down some of the things we got.  And they — you know, they — sure, they got a meeting.  But only a person that dislikes Donald Trump would say that I’ve agreed to make a big commitment.


Sure, I’ve agreed to take a period of time and come here and meet, and that’s good.  But I think it’s great for us, as a country, and I think it’s good for them.


But what did they do to justify this meeting?  Secured commitment for complete denuclearization; that’s the big thing.  They secured the release of three American hostages.  They already gave them to us two months ago.  These people are now living happily back in their homes, with their families.  And it was pretty rough for them, to put it mildly.


Secure the commitment to recover the remains, including — these are of fallen heroes.  And they’re giving a commitment, they’re starting it immediately, to recover their remains.  And I just went through how many people asked me about it.  I was amazed, actually.  So many people would ask me, “Is it possible?  Is it possible?”  At that time we had no relationship to Chairman Kim or to anybody else in North Korea.  You know, it was a very closed society.  So we’re getting the remains back.


Secured the halt of all missile and nuclear tests for — how long has it been?  Seven months?  You haven’t had a missile go up.  For seven months, you haven’t had a nuclear test; you haven’t had a nuclear explosion.  I remember a nuclear event took place — 8.8 in the Richter scale.  And they announced — I heard it on the radio — they announced that a massive — you know, an earthquake took place somewhere in Asia.  And then they said it was in North Korea.  And then they found out it was a nuclear test.  I said, “I never heard of a Richter scale in the high 8s.”


And if you look, there has been no missile launches.  They’ve blown up their missile area.  That’s going to take place.  That has not been written into the contract.  We’re going to give you the exact details on that.  But they secured a halt of all missiles and of all nuclear tests.  They secured the closure of their single primary nuclear test site.  All three of them — they’re in an area that’s common around each other — they secured the closure.


They secured the commitment to destroy the missile engine testing site.  That was not in your agreement.  I got that after we signed the agreement. I said, “Do me a favor.  You’ve got this missile engine testing site.  We know where it is because of the heat.”  It’s incredible the equipment we have, to be honest with you.  I said, “Can you close it up?”  He’s going to close it up.


We maintained the ability to continue to apply sanctions.  So we’re applying sanctions.  Now I had 300 sanctions that I was getting ready to put on last week.  And I said, you know, I can’t really put on sanctions when I’m meeting with — I thought it would be very disrespectful.  Three hundred very big ones, powerful ones.  And I said it would be disrespectful.


So, Jennifer, when you look at all of those things that we got — and when we got our hostages back, I didn’t pay $1.8 billion in cash like the hostages that came back from Iran, which was a disgraceful situation, what took place.


So we’ve gotten a lot.  So when I hear somebody in the media say that President Trump has agreed to meet — like, it’s not a big deal to meet. I think we should meet on a lot of different topics, not just this one.  And I really believe a lot of great things can happen.


Yes.  Go ahead, please.


Q    Sir, you just listed off a lot of things that you say you got in this meeting.  It wasn’t too long ago, though, that you said you defined the success of this meeting by North Korea giving up its nuclear weapons.


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, that’s what they’re doing.


Q    Well, can you talk about how —


THE PRESIDENT:  Sure.  That’s what they’re doing.  I mean, I don’t think the —


Q    — how you pressed Kim Jong Un for complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, I did, honestly —


Q    And can you why you didn’t secure those details in this agreement?


THE PRESIDENT:  Because there was no time.  I’m here one day.  We’re together for many hours intensively, but the process is now going to take place.  And I would be surprised, Mike, if they haven’t even started already.  They have started; they blew up their sites.  They blew up their testing site.


But I will say, he knew, prior to coming — you know, this wasn’t like a surprise.  It wasn’t like we’ve never discussed it.  We discussed it.  Mike discussed it very strongly with his counterpart in North Korea.  They knew that this was — let’s say they didn’t agree to that I couldn’t sign any agreement.  There was no agreement that could have been signed.  So they understood that.


And it wasn’t a big point today because, really, this had been taken care of, more than any other thing.  Because it was all about this.  This has been taken care of before we got here.  So when we brought that up today, you see the language.  It’s very strong.  It’s in the document.


Yes, ma’am.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  Could you talk about the military consequences for North Korea if they don’t follow through on the commitments that you’re talking about?  Could there be military action?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I don’t want to talk.  Yeah, I know.  That’s a tough thing to talk about because I don’t want to be threatening.  I don’t want to be threatening.  They understood that.  And you’ve seen what was, perhaps, going to happen.


And you know, Seoul has 28 million people.  We think we have big cities.  You look at New York, where it has 8 million people.  We think it’s a big city.  Seoul has 28 million people.  Think of that.  And it’s right next to the border.  It’s right next to the DMZ.  It’s right there.  I mean, if this would have happened, I think — you know, I’ve heard, oh, a hundred-thousand people.  I think you could have lost 20 million people, 30 million people.  This is really an honor for me to be doing this because I think, you know, potentially, you could have lost, you know, 30-, 40-, 50 million people.  The city of Seoul, one of the biggest cities in the world, is right next to the border.


Q    You once spoke about fire and fury.  Is that no longer the case?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, at that time we needed, perhaps, fire and fury.  Because we could not have allowed that kind of capability from the standpoint of the United States.  And certainly, Japan wasn’t going to allow it either.  Japan is right next door.


Q    One more thing.  Mr. President, could you tell us about the video that you showed before this?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.


Q    When did you show that to Kim?  What was the goal there?


THE PRESIDENT:  Today.  Yeah, we had it made up by some — I hope you liked it.  I thought it was good.  I thought it was interesting enough to show.  One in English and one in Korean.  And we had it made up.  I showed it to him today.  Actually, during the meeting — toward the end of the meeting.  And I think he loved it.  They were giving — we didn’t have a big screen like you have the luxury of having.  We didn’t need it because we had it on a cassette and — an iPad.  And they played it.  And about eight of their representatives were watching it, and I thought they were fascinated.


But I thought it was well done.  I showed it to you because that’s the future.  I mean, that could very well be the future.  And the other alternative is just not a very good alternative.  It’s just not good.  But I showed it because I really want him to do something.  Now, I don’t think I had to show it because I really believe he wants to — I think he wants to get it done.


Yes.  Go ahead.  How’s Staten Island Ferry doing?  Okay?  He wrote the best story about me with the Staten Island Ferry.  And after that, he’s never written a good story.


Q    That’s a long time ago, sir.


THE PRESIDENT:  I don’t know what happened.  It’s a long time ago.


Q    Mr. President, it’s been a busy week for you on the international stage.  You’re leaving this summit here in Singapore having determined that Kim Jong Un is a talented man.  You left the G7 Summit a few days ago in Canada having determined that Prime Minister Trudeau is weak and dishonest.  What do you say to America’s allies who worry that you might be jeopardizing our long-term alliances and who worry that you might be treating our historic friends as enemies and our historic enemies as friends?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first of all, I think it’s a very fair question.  I had a very good meeting with the G7.  And I left the meeting.  And, I’ll be honest, we are being taken advantage of by virtually every one of those countries.  Very, very seriously.  Now, the United States, because of bad management at the top, because of Presidents that didn’t care about trade or didn’t understand it or whatever reason.  For many years, with China being, obviously, the most successful at it, but the European Union is second — $151 billion we lost.  They were represented at the meeting.  And we’re being taken advantage of on trade.


Canada does have very big advantages over us in terms of trade deficits.  We have a big trade deficit with Canada, I was reading, where, oh, it’s actually a surplus.  Not a surplus.  It’s either 17, but it could actually be 100.  You know, they put out a document.  I don’t know if you saw it.  They didn’t want me to see it, but we found it.  Perhaps they were trying to show the power they have.  It’s close to $100 billion a year loss with Canada.


They don’t take our farm products — many of them.  They charge what was 270 percent, but somebody told me the other day that a few months ago they raised it to 295 percent for dairy products.  And it’s very unfair to our farmers, and it’s very unfair to the people of our country — the workers, the farmers, the companies.  And we are not able to trade.  They have tremendous barriers up.  They have tremendous tariffs.


So when I put in a countervailing tariff just to get us up a little bit so the balance isn’t so much — it’s like this — they said, “Oh, that’s so terrible.”  I said, “What’s terrible?”  We have to catch you a little bit.  We have to have a little balance.  Even if it’s not complete, we have to have a little balance.  I say this with many countries.


Anyway, we came — we finished the meeting.  Really, everybody was happy.  And I agreed to sign something.  I asked for changes; I demanded changes.  And those changes were made.  In fact, the picture with Angela Merkel, who I get along with very well, where I’m sitting there like this, that picture was we’re waiting for the document because I wanted to see the final document as changed by the changes that I requested.


That was a very friendly — I know it didn’t look friendly, and I know it was reported like sort of nasty both ways.  I was angry at her or she — actually, we were just talking, the whole group, about something unrelated to everything, very friendly, waiting for the document to come back so I could read it before I leave.


Anyway, I left and it was very friendly.  When I got onto the plane, I think that Justin probably didn’t know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions, and I see the television.  And he’s giving a news conference about how he will not be pushed around by the United States.  And I say, push him around?  We just shook hands.  It was very friendly.


Look, countries cannot continue to take advantage of us on trade.  The number are out.  Over the last couple of years, and over the last many years — but over the last couple of years, this country has lost $800 billion on trade with other countries, the biggest one being China.  Eight-hundred billion dollars.  A hundred fifty-one billion with the European Union.  They don’t take our agricultural products, barely.  They don’t take a lot of what we have, and yet they send Mercedes into us, they send BMWs into us by the millions.  It’s very unfair, and it’s very unfair to our workers.  And I’m going to straighten it out.  And it won’t even be tough.  Okay?  Thank you.


Go ahead.  Go ahead.


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  I would like to involve Congress, yes.  And no, I have a good relationship with Justin Trudeau.  I really did.  Other than he had a news conference that he had because he assumed I was in an airplane and I wasn’t watching.  He learned.  That’s going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada.  He learned.  You can’t do that.  You can’t do that.


We laughed.  We had a very good relationship.  I’ve had a good relationship with Justin.  I have a good relationship with all.  I have a very good relationship with Angela Merkel.  But on NATO, we’re paying 4.2 percent; she’s paying 1 percent of a much smaller GDP than we have.  We’re paying 4.2 percent on a much larger — we’re paying for — I mean, anyone can say — from 60 to 90 percent of NATO.  And we’re protecting countries of Europe.  And then on top of it, they kill us on trade.  So we just can’t have it that way.  It’s unfair to our taxpayers and to our people.


But no, I have a good relationship with Justin.  And I have a, I think, a very good relationship with Chairman Kim right now.  I really do.  I think — I hope it’s good because if it is, we’re going to solve a very big problem.  I think we’ve gone a long way to solving it today.


Should we keep going for a little while?  Sarah?  I don’t know.  It’s up to the legendary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.  Should we keep going, Sarah?  Okay, we’ll go.  Well, I don’t care.  Hey, you know, it just means we get home a little later in the evening.  Right?


Yeah.  Go ahead.  Sure.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.


Q    Hi, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  How are you?


Q    I’m good.


THE PRESIDENT:  Nice to see you.


Q    From The Straits Times of Singapore.  Welcome to the country.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.


Q    I hope you enjoyed our food.


THE PRESIDENT:  Beautiful country.  I did.


Q    I just wanted to find out.  You described this as a process.  What is the immediate next step?  Is there some ongoing dialogue —


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  We’re getting together next week to go into the details.


Q    And that’s (inaudible)?


THE PRESIDENT:  Secretary Pompeo.  Yeah.  Next week, with John Bolton and our entire team, to go over the details and to get this stuff done.  We want to get it done; he wants to get it done.  We’re also working very much with South Korea.  We’re working with Japan.  We’re working with China, to a lesser extent, but we’re working with China.


Q    And you are coming back to Singapore?


THE PRESIDENT:  I would come back gladly.  Your Prime Minister was fantastic.  We were with him yesterday.  He’s done a great job.  It was very welcoming.  It really, probably had — it probably made a difference, actually.  It’s a great place.


Thank you very much.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, ma’am.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  What was it about that first interaction with Chairman Kim this morning that that made you decide not to walk away after you said that you would know within the first minute if he was sincere or not?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.  I’ve said that about relationships.  I’ve said that about people.  You know in the first second.  Now, I was generous.  I said five seconds.  But you know in the first second, in some cases.  Sometimes that doesn’t work out.  But sometimes it does.


From the beginning, we got along.  But there’s been a lot of groundwork.  This wasn’t like we went and we started talking about — as you know, right?  We didn’t just come in and start talking about these very complex subjects that have been going on for 70 years.  We’ve been discussing this for months.  And, you know, once the rhetoric stopped, once they did a great thing –you know, North Korea did a great thing by going to the Olympics.  Because the Olympics — and President Moon will tell you this — the Olympics was not exactly doing great.  People didn’t feel like being bombed out of the Opening Ceremonies.  You know, they weren’t exactly selling tickets.  And as soon as the Chairman — Chairman Kim — said, “Let’s participate in the Olympics,” it sold like wildfire and was a great success as an Olympics.  It was a great success.  He did a great thing.


But since that time, pretty much since that time — because, as you know, a delegation came from South Korea who had just met with North Korea.  They came to the White House.  They told me lots of things, including the fact that they’d be willing to denuke.  We have one of their great people here today.  That they were willing to denuke.  And once that started, we have been really talking about that from the end of the Olympics when the whole delegation came to say various things, including denuking.


Q    If I may, a second question.  In the document that you signed earlier today, North Korea agreed to commit to denuclearization.  To borrow a phrase that you have used to criticize your predecessors and political opponents, how do you ensure that North Korea is not all talk, no action going forward?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think can you ensure anything?  Can I ensure that you’re going to be able to sit down properly when you sit down?  I mean, you can’t ensure anything.  All I can say is they want to make a deal.  That’s what I do.  My whole life has been deals.  I’ve done great at it, and that’s what I do.  And I know when somebody wants to deal, and I know when somebody doesn’t.  A lot of politicians don’t.  That’s not their thing, but it is my thing.


I mean, again, this really could have been done, I think, easier a long time ago.  But I know for a — I just feel very strongly — my instinct, my ability, or talent — they want to make a deal.  And making a deal is a great thing for the world.  It’s also a great thing for China because I can’t imagine that China has, you know, is happy with somebody having nuclear weapons so close.  So, you know, that’s — China was very helpful.


So I think he wants to make a deal.  Can anybody be certain?  But we’re going to be certain soon because the negotiations continue.  Okay?  Thank you very much.


Go ahead.


Q    You mentioned that you have raised extensively the issue of human rights with Chairman Kim.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    I wonder what you would say to the group of people who have no ability whatsoever to hear or to see this press conference — the 100,000 North Koreans kept in a network of gulags.  Have you betrayed them by legitimizing the regime in Pyongyang?


THE PRESIDENT:  No, I think I’ve helped them because I think things will change.  I think I’ve helped them.  There’s nothing I can say.  All I can do is do what I can do.  We have to stop the nuclearization.  We have to do other things, and that’s a very important thing.  So at a certain point, hopefully, you’ll be able to ask me a much more positive question or make a statement.


But not much I can do right now.  At a certain point, I really believe he’s going to do things about it.  I think they are one of the great winners today, that large group of people that you’re talking about.  I think, ultimately, they’re going to be one of the great winners as a group.


Yes, sir.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  Yeah.


Q    Would you ever consider removing the sanctions without significant improvement in the human rights situation?


THE PRESIDENT:  No.  I want significant improvement.  I want to know that it won’t be happening.  And again, once you start that process, there will be a point at which, even though you won’t be finished for a while because it can’t happen scientifically or mechanically, but you’re not going to be able to go back.  You know, once we reach that point, I’ll start to give that very serious thought.


Yes.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  You first.


Q    Mr. President, did you also discuss the cost of denuclearization and how North Korea is about to foot the bill while the crippling sanctions remain in place?  I’m from (inaudible) News Agency Singapore.


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think that South Korea and I think that Japan will help them very greatly.  I think they’re prepared to help them.  They know they’re going to have to help them.  I think they’re going to help them very greatly.  We won’t have to help them.  The United States has been paying a big price in a lot of different places.  But South Korea, which obviously is right next door, and Japan, which essentially is next door, they’re going to be helping them.  And I think they’re going to be doing a very generous job and a terrific job.  So they will be helping them.


Yes, ma’am.  Go ahead.  Behind.  Yes.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    I’d like to follow up on Steve’s question.  He asked you how long it would take to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula.  You said a long time.  What does that mean?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I don’t know, when you say a long time.  I think we will do it as fast as it can be done scientifically, as fast as it can be done mechanically.  I don’t think — I mean, I’ve read horror stories.  It’s a 15-year process.  Okay?  Assuming you wanted to do it quickly, I don’t believe that.  I think whoever wrote that is wrong.  But there will be a point at which, when you’re 20 percent through, you can’t go back.


I had an uncle who was a great professor for, I believe, 40 years at MIT.  And I used to discuss nuclear with him all the time.  He was a great expert.  He was a great, brilliant genius.  Dr. John Trump at MIT.  I think he was there 40 years, I was told.  In fact, the head of MIT sent me a book on my uncle.  But we used to talk about nuclear.  You’re talking about a very complex subject.  It’s not just like, “Oh, gee.  Let’s get rid of the nukes.”  It takes a period of time.


But the main period of time that I’m talking is that first period, when you hit a certain point you can’t go back.  It’s very hard to go back.


Q    And how long will that take?


THE PRESIDENT:  We don’t know, but it will go pretty quickly.


Go ahead.  Sure.


Q    Thanks, Mr. President.  I wanted to ask again on the sanctions campaign.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.


Q    You alluded at the very beginning that the Chinese are not doing as great a job securing the border as they were before.  You expressed some doubts when Kim went to see President Xi.  The Russian foreign minister was in Pyongyang and said there shouldn’t be any sanctions while these negotiations are under way.  And the South Koreans are now talking about restoring some form of trade.  So with all of those players appearing to be moving toward eroding sanctions, how can you keep the sanctions regime in place?  What leverage do you have on these countries?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think we have a lot of leverage.  I think we have tremendous leverage.  I do believe that China, despite my relationship with President Xi — a man who I told you I have great respect for and like, also, a lot.  You know, we’re having very tough talks on trade.  And I think that probably affects China somewhat.  But I have to do what I have to do.  And I think, over the last two months, the border is more open than it was when we first started.  But that is what it is.  We have to do it.  We have a tremendous deficit in trade, commonly known as a trade deficit.  We have a tremendous deficit in trade with China, and we have to do something about it.  We can’t continue to let that happen.


And I think that has had an impact on my relationship, in terms of the border.  I don’t think it has the relationship — you know, I don’t think it affects my feeling or my relationship to President Xi.  But when we first started, we weren’t ready to go that route.  And as we started preparing and getting ready to do that, I think that’s had an impact on, frankly, the border.  Which is a shame.  But I have to do it.  I have no choice.  For our country, I have to do it.


South Korea will do whatever is necessary to get a deal done.  And if that means we can’t trade, then I’m not going to trade.  They’re definitely not going to trade.  If they think — and they would do this with our concurrence — if they think that they can do some work because we’re very far down the line — we’re actually very far.  You know, that document, when you read it today, that’s far down the line.  That’s not something that just happened to be put together.  This was done over months.  And again, the rhetoric was important, and the sanctions were important.  I don’t even know which one was more important.  They were both important.


Yeah.  Go ahead.


Q    Mr. President, David Sanger for The New York Times.  I was wondering if you could give us some sense of whether the Chairman Kim told you how many nuclear weapons he believes he’s made, whether he’s willing to turn those over first, and then whether, in your mind, you need to do more than was done in the Iran deal for actually dismantling the — both the uranium and the plutonium processes.  And whether or not you had a sense that Chairman Kim really understood what that involves and had a timetable in his own mind of shutting that.


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, David, I can tell you he understands.  He understands it so well.  He understands it better than the people that are doing the work for him.  That is an easy one.  As far as what he has, it’s substantial.  Very substantial.  The timing will go quickly.  I believe you’ll see some good action.  I mean, as an example, one of the things with the missile site, I think you’re probably surprised to hear that — that was a throw-in at the end, the missile site.


But I really believe, David, that it’s going to go very quickly.  I really believe that it’s going to go fast.  And it is a very substantial arsenal.  There’s no question about it.  You know, I used to say maybe it’s all talk and no action.  But we have pretty good intelligence into that.  Although, probably less there than any other country.  You understand that maybe better than anybody in the room.  Probably less there than any other country.  But we have enough intelligence to know that what they have is very substantial.


This is why, David, I always say that this shouldn’t have taken place so late into the process.  Wouldn’t this have been better if it was 5 years ago or 20 years ago or 15 years ago and we didn’t have to worry about not having a successful meeting like today?  So — and I still love my first interview with you, David.  I still have that interview, actually.


Yeah.  Go ahead.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    (Inaudible) the second summit — if there is a second summit with Chairman Kim Jong Un, would it be in Pyongyang or Washington?


THE PRESIDENT:  We haven’t set that up.  We’ll probably need another summit.  We’ll probably need — or meeting.  We can use a different term.  But we’ll probably need another one.  We’ll probably — I will say this, we’re much further along than I would have thought.  I did not think we’d be here.  I thought — and I’ve told people — I didn’t want to build up people’s hopes too much.  I told people I thought that this would be a successful meeting if we got along, we developed a relationship, and we could have maybe gotten to this point in three or four months from now.  But it really happened very quickly.  A lot of that was because of the foundation that was, you know, put down before we met.  A lot of things happened very fast.


We didn’t have — as an example, bringing back the remains.  That was not one of the things that was on our agenda today.  I brought that up at the very end because so many people have talked to me about it.  And I brought it up at the very end.  And he was really very gracious.  Instead of saying, “Well, let’s talk about it the next time.”  He said, “It makes sense.  We will do it.”


And he knew — you know, they know where many of those incredible people are.  Where they’re buried along roads, along highways, along paths, usually, because our soldiers were moving back and forth and they had to move rapidly.  It’s very sad.  But he knew.  And that was brought up at the very end.  And you know, it was really great that he was able to do it.  A lot of people are going to be very happy about that.


Yes.  Go ahead, please.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.


Q    Emerald Robinson, One America News.  Congratulations.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.  Thank you for the nice way you treat us.  We appreciate it.  Really, it’s very good.  It’s really beautiful what you do.  Go ahead.


Q    So you —


THE PRESIDENT:  And now I’ll probably get this killer question.


Q    (Laughs.)  Well, I do want to talk about the future of North Korea.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.  It’s all right.


Q    Specifically the people are — Kim Jong Un is saying he’s wanting a brighter future with prosperity for his people, yet we know they’ve lived under oppression.  You showed him this video of what the future can be like.  But do you have an idea specifically of the model that you would like to go towards?  Economically, is he open to more economic freedom?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, it’s a good question.  So you saw a tape today, and that, I think, was done really well.  But that was done at the highest level of future development.  I told him, you may not want this.  You may want to do a much smaller version of this.  I mean, you’re going to do something.  But you may want to do a smaller version.  You may not want that with the trains and the everything.  You know, it’s super — everything the top.  And maybe you won’t want that.  It’s going to be up to them.  It’s going to be up to them.  It’s going to be up to the people what they want.  They may not want that.  I can understand that too.


But that was a version of what could happen, what could take place.  As an example, they have great beaches.  You see that whenever they’re exploding their cannons into the ocean, right?  I said, “Boy, look at the view.  Wouldn’t that make a great condo behind?”  And I explained, I said, “You know, instead of doing that, you could have the best hotels in the world right there.”  Think of it from a real estate perspective.  You have South Korea, you have China, and they own the land in the middle.  How bad is that, right?  It’s great.  But I told him, I said, you may not want to do what’s there.  You may want to do a smaller version of it or — you know.  And that could be.


Although, I tell you what — he looked at that tape, he looked at that iPad, and I’m telling you they really enjoyed it, I believe.  Okay?


Yeah.  Go ahead.  A couple more.  Okay.  We’ll do three more.  Yeah.  Go ahead.  Go.


Q    Brian Bennett from Time Magazine.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  Hi, Brian.  Am I on the cover again this week?  Boy, have I — so many covers.


Q    It’s entirely possible.


THE PRESIDENT:  Huh?  I know.  That’s okay.


Q    Do you now see Kim Jong Un as an equal?


THE PRESIDENT:  In what way?


Q    You just showed a video that showed you and Kim Jong Un on equal footing in discussing the future of —


THE PRESIDENT:  No.  I think that — I don’t view it that way.  See, I don’t view it that way.  I’ll do whatever it takes to make the world a safer place.  If I have to say I’m sitting on a stage — I mean, I understand what you’re getting at.  If I have to say I’m sitting on a stage with Chairman Kim and that’s going to get us to save 30 million lives — could be more than that — I’m willing to sit on the stage.  I’m willing to travel to Singapore very proudly, very gladly.


Again, I — you know, other than the fact that it is taking my time, they have given up a tremendous amount.  They’ve given it up even before.  And even add the Olympics to it.  You know, you could add the Olympics to the question.  They went to the Olympics.  They took an Olympics that was going to be a massive failure that maybe wouldn’t have even opened, and they made it a tremendous success by agreeing to participate.  Add that to the list of things that they’ve done.


So, Brian, if I can save millions of lives by coming here, sitting down, and establishing a relationship with someone who’s a very powerful man, who’s got firm control of a country, and that country has very powerful nuclear weapons, it’s my honor to do it.


Q    Are you concerned that the video you just showed could be used by Kim as propaganda to show him as an equal —


THE PRESIDENT:  No, I’m not concerned at all.  We can use that video for other countries.


Go ahead.


Q    Mr. President, in the year 2000, President Clinton got a request by Kim Jong Il.


THE PRESIDENT:  Got impressed?


Q    Got a request —


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh.


Q    From Kim Jong Il to travel to Pyongyang and meet him.  And Clinton refused.  He sent Secretary of State Albright.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.  He did a great deal.  And he spent $3 billion and got nothing.  And he started making nuclear weapons a day later.


Q    Mr. President, you, on the other hand, got the request and right away went here to meet him.  And do you understand those people who say that you gave him the ultimate present — the legitimacy to a regime who oppress its people without an ongoing process before you, as the U.S. President, as the leader of the free world, meet and shake hands with this leader of North Korea who is perceived to be oppressing brutally his own people?


THE PRESIDENT:  Okay.  Good.  I think we just answered the question.


Q    But do you understand those people?


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh, I understand them much better than you do.


Okay.  Yeah.  Go ahead.  Go ahead.  Thank you very much.  Yes.


Q    Mr. President, Eliana Johnson with Politico.


THE PRESIDENT:  Sure.  Hi.


Q    Hi.  You mentioned a couple specific concessions that you got from Kim: the return of remains and the destruction of the nuclear site.  And I know you said that was an add-on —


THE PRESIDENT:  And much more.  And much more than that.


Q    Yeah.  I know you said the last thing was an add-on and it wasn’t in the agreement, but that he gave you his word.  If he doesn’t follow through on these things, what are you prepared to do in response?  And will you lose faith in this process?


THE PRESIDENT:  No.  I think he’ll do it.  I really believe that.  Otherwise, I wouldn’t be doing this.  I really believe it.  And it was really the engine testing site, in addition to all of the other things that they’ve agreed to do.  It was the — they have a very powerful engine testing site that, again, we’re able to see because of the heat that it emits.  And, yeah, I’m able to — I’m very happy.  I’ll tell you what — I’m very happy with those two points — the two points you mentioned.


But I think you might be referring to the thing that’s not in, which is the engine testing site.  I think he’s — I think — honestly, I think he’s going to do these things.  I may be wrong.  I mean, I may stand before you in six months and say, “Hey, I was wrong.”  I don’t know that I’ll ever admit that, but I’ll find some kind of an excuse.  (Laughter.)


Okay, one or two.  One more.  Come on.  Yeah, go ahead.  Sure.


Q    Thank you, Mr. President.


THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.  Thank you.


Q    (Inaudible) with Shenzhen Media Group.  I just would like to know, will you call Chinese President Xi when you come back to D.C. to discuss about achievements you made today with Chairman Kim?


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  I will.


Q    And what’s your expectation about China’s role to accelerate the process to establish a long-term peace mechanism?


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, my expectation about China is that China is a great country with a great leader, and a friend of mine.  And I really believe that he’s happy that we’ve made this kind of progress.  And I’ve heard from him.  But I will be calling him very shortly.  Maybe even before I land.  Okay?


And I have to say, you know — and the United States is a great country.  And we have set records economically — over $7 trillion in net worth addition to what we have.  And we are almost twice the size, the economy of the United States.  Nobody talks about this, because you do hear a lot about China, rightfully so.  But the United States, now, is almost twice the size of the economy of China.  We have a great country and we’re on a correct path.


Okay.  One more.  That will be it.


Q    Mr. President, from South Korea.


THE PRESIDENT:  Oh, South Korea?  Where’s South Korea?  I think you deserve — go ahead.  Go.  You deserve one.  Yes.  You deserve one.


Q    I’ve got two questions for you, Mr. President.  First, you mentioned earlier that you’re going to talk with South Korean President Moon Jae-in over the phone.


THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.


Q    What do you plan to discuss with him?


THE PRESIDENT:  I just want to tell him about the meeting.  Very successful.  And he’ll be very much involved in the final negotiation.  He’s a very, very fine gentleman.  Also a friend of mine.  And I look forward to speaking.  He’ll be very happy when he hears about — I’ve already sent word to him about what happened.  I sent the document to him, actually, and all of the details behind the document.  So I’ll be talking to him very shortly.


Q    If I may ask another question.  In signing the peace treaty, do you hope to — do you plan to work this out with North Korea’s Chairman Kim only, or what do you think about the involvement of South Korea and China as the signatories?


THE PRESIDENT:  I’d like to have them involved also.  There’s a question as to whether or not we’re supposed to or whether or not we legally have to.  I don’t care.  I think it would be great to have China involved and also, of course, South Korea.  Okay?


Q    Is there a transcript of (inaudible)?


THE PRESIDENT:  What?


Q    Is there a transcript of (inaudible)?


THE PRESIDENT:  Mike, do they have a transcript?  They probably have a rough transcript, which you can give us, if you have one.


Q    So that was recorded?


THE PRESIDENT:  No, they didn’t record it.  I don’t think they recorded it.  Are there any recordings of it?  I wish there were.  Because it is interesting stuff.


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  Say it?


Q    (Inaudible.)


THE PRESIDENT:  I don’t.  We probably have some notes or something.  But they have, actually, detailed notes, I would imagine.  But we had a great conversation.  It was a very heart-felt conversation.


Q    How do you believe (inaudible) verify —


THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I don’t have to verify because I have one of the great memories of all time.  So I don’t have to.  Okay?  Okay?


Q    What about the previous phone calls you had with Kim Jong Un?  You had phone calls (inaudible).


THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, but I don’t want to discuss it.  But we did is we’ve had numerous discussions.  We’ve had very important relationships established at Mike’s level and other levels.  In fact, a couple of people are here from, as you know, from North Korea.  They’re in the room.  We have a few people in the back also, in the room.


So when we went into this final agreement, very importantly, we really didn’t go in cold.  We went in with tremendous relationship and tremendous knowledge.  And I think that’s why we got it done.


So I’m going to head back.  I don’t know about you folks, but it’s been a long time since I’ve taken it easy.  So now we can take it a little bit easy, and then the work begins again.  And I appreciate everybody being here.  I hope we’ve answered your questions.  And thank you very much.  And sort of congratulations to everybody, because this is, really — to me it’s a very important event in world history.  And to be really true to myself, I have to add, I want to get it completed.  ”


So Mike, our whole team has to get to work and get it completed.  Because otherwise, we’ve done a good job.  But if you don’t the ball over the goal line, it doesn’t mean enough.  Okay?


So thank you, and sort of congratulations to everybody in the room.  Thank you very much.  Appreciate it.  Thank you.  (Applause.)


END


5:20 P.M. SGT




[기자] 

질문이 많을 것 같은데요. 하십시오. NBC 기자입니다. 두 가지 질문입니다. 먼저 오늘 김정은 위원장을 만났는데요. 주민들을 굶주리게 했습니다.


보통 웜비어를 죽게 만들었고요. 그런데 이렇게 편안하게 재능 있는 사람이라고 부를 수 있나요? 실제로 재능 있는 사람이기 때문입니까? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

26살의 나이에 이런 나라를 물려받았고 또 나라를 통치했습니다.


강력하게 통치를 해야 했죠. 하지만 원래 인간성에 대해서는 저는 잘 모르겠지만 일단은 26살짜리가 그런 일을 할 수 있다는 건 정말 대단하다고 생각합니다.


오토 웜비어는 정말 특별한 사람이고 평생 기억할 겁니다. 그분의 가족들도 정말 좋은 친구고요. 오토 웜비어의 죽음이 없었다면 이런 일은 없었을 겁니다.


그의 희생으로부터 이것이 시작된 겁니다. 아주 잔인하고 비극적인 일이었지만 그 일 때문에 이런 대화의 노력이 시작됐다고 생각합니다. 오토 웜비어 그의 죽음이 헛되지 않았다고 생각합니다.


아주 특별한 젊은이였죠. 정말 특별한 부모님을 둔 청년이죠. 오토의 죽음은 헛되지 않았습니다. 감사합니다.


[기자] 

두 번째 질문이 있는데요. 안보 보장에 대해서 적혀 있었는데 그것에 대해서 어떤, 구체적으로 어떤 안전보장을 하셨는지요?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

그 부분에 대해서 군사 능력을 감축한다거나 이런 건 상관이 없습니다. 잘 아시겠지만 제가 대선 캠페인 때 어떻게 했는지 아시지 않습니까?


저는 저의 군인들을 현재 한국에 4만 2000명의 주한미군이 주둔하고 있습니다. 하지만 지금 협상에서는 회담에서는 그 문제는 의제 대상이 아닙니다, 지금은 아닙니다.


미래에는 할 수는 있겠지만 지금은 아닙니다. 우리가 앞으로 협상에서 어떻게 될지는 모르겠지만 일단은 만약 이 문제와 관련해서 자금을 많이 줄일 수 있는 부분이 있을 거라고 생각합니다. 말씀하시죠. 


[기자] 

대통령님, 저희는 사실 혼란스럽습니다. 이번 합의문을 보면 검증 가능한 혹은 불가역적 비핵화라는 표현은 없습니다. 미국이 양보를 한 것입니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

전혀 그렇지 않습니다. 합의문을 보시면 굉장히 알기 쉽게 설명이 돼 있습니다. 미국과 북한이 새로운 관계를 구축할 것이다라고 되어 있고 또한 안전 보장을 이야기하고 있고 또한 완전한 한반도 비핵화에 대한 변함 없는 의지를 확인한다라는 내용이 있습니다.


김 위원장과 검증의 방법에 대해서 논의하셨습니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

논의했습니다. 물론 검증도 할 것입니다. 어떻게 할 수 있을까요? 많은 사람들이 지켜봐야 할 것입니다. 우리가 신뢰를 구축하는 게 중요하다고 생각합니다.


이미 어느 정도 했다고 생각했는데 이와 관련해서 폼페이오 장관이 굉장히 훌륭한 업적을 이뤄냈습니다. 물론 검증을 위해서는 많은 사람들이 여기에 참여를 할 것입니다. 하지만 여기서 중요한 것은 완전한 비핵화를 이룬다는 것입니다.


그리고 검증을 할 것입니다. 검증은 미국이 합니까, 북한이 합니까? 두 가지가 조합될 것입니다. 다음 질문 받겠습니다.


[기자] 

김정은 위원장이 어떤 확신을 주기 위해서 어떤 말을 했습니까? 북한의 역사를 보면 기만 시스템이 있고 게임을 한다거나 이런 서명이 있는데요.



제대로 무기를 포기하는지 확인해야 하지 않겠습니까? 김정은 위원장이 과거에 대해서 얘기를 하고 아시다시피 제대로 된 게 하나도 없었죠. 클린턴 행정부 때 많은 돈이 낭비만 됐습니다.


하지만 아무런 변화가 없었죠. 그 문제에 대해서 김정은 위원장이 제게 말했습니다. 이렇게까지 멀리 와본 적이 없었다. 이런 확신이라든가 자신감을 얻어낸 것은 이번이 처음이다. 그리고 그런 관련돼서 일을 할 수 있었던 건 이번이 처음이다라고 말을 했습니다.


그리고 강하게 말하기를 저보다 더 이 부분을 원한다고 생각합니다. 북한을 위해서 더 밝은 미래를 원하니까요. 여러분, 어떻게 될지는 아무도 모릅니다.


하지만 확실한 건 지금 포괄적인 문서에, 합의문에 서명을 했다는 겁니다. 지금쯤이면 합의문을 다 받아보셨을 텐데요. 아주 포괄적인 문서에 합의했고 거기에 서명을 했습니다.


그리고 잠시 후에 김정은 위원장이 착륙을 한다면 여기서 약속한 일들을 시작할 거라고 생각합니다. 제가 그동안 설전을 주고받으면서, 레토릭을 주고받으면서 서로 조금씩 조금씩 알아나가고 오늘도 같이 하루 종일 시간을 보냈는데 그동안 새로운 팀을 구성하는 것도 매우 중요했다고 생각합니다.


어쨌든 김정은 위원장이 이번에는 해결을 하는 거에 매우 관심이 있다고 생각합니다. 기자 두 분이 비슷해 보여서 헷갈리네요. 


[기자]

질문 드리겠습니다. 비핵화, 즉 핵무기와 또 생화학무기 같은 것이 또한 북한과 관련된 큰 문제일 것입니다. 그리고 인권과 관련된 상황도 아주 열악합니다. 이 문제들 역시 함께 논의가 되었는지요?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

논의했습니다. 그리고 앞으로 더 많이 논의할 것입니다, 인권 문제는요. 또한 논의했던 것은 굉장히 상세한 논의가 있었는데요. 제가 사실 전화와 편지 등을 많이 받았습니다.


미국인들이 전사자의 유해를 돌려달라고 하는 요청을 굉장히 많이 받은 바 있습니다. 한국전쟁은 정말로 끔찍한 전쟁이었죠. 그래서 제가 그 부분을 요청을 했고 마지막에 그 부분에 대한 합의가 이뤄졌습니다.


전사자 유해에 대한 송환이 이뤄질 것입니다. 많은 사람들은 북한과 이런 전사자 유해의 송환에 대해서 어떻게 합의를 할 수 있겠느냐라는 질문을 저한테 해 왔습니다.


그렇다면 새로운 시대, 영광의 시대가 열릴려면 그 문제도 포함되어야 하지 않을까요? 그렇습니다. 그렇다고 생각하고 그렇게 될 거라고 생각합니다. 감사합니다.


[기자]

스티브 질문해 주시죠. 감사합니다. 비핵화의 시간표는 어떻게 생각하고 계시는지, 그리고 제재 해제에 대해서는 어떻게 생각하십니까? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

과학적으로 사실 많은 시간이 걸릴 겁니다. 완전한 비핵화라는 것은 시간이 많이 걸립니다. 과학적으로 그렇습니다. 어느 정도 시간을 기다려봐야만 하는 것입니다.


하지만 일단 프로세스를 시작을 하기만 하면 그것은 거의 완료에 가까워 가는 것이라고 저는 생각합니다. 기계적으로 그리고 물리적으로는 최대한 빠르게 진행할 것입니다.


제재의 경우 우리가 핵 문제가 더 이상 문제가 아니다라고 인식하게 될 때 해제될 것입니다. 역시 많은 진전이 있다면 역시 빠르게 해제될 수 있을 것입니다.


말씀드렸지만 일단 현재는 제재가 지속될 것입니다. 다만 우리가 앞으로 어떤 진전을 이루게 된다면 역시 빠르게 해제될 수 있습니다. 감사합니다.


[기자]

먼저 역사적인 회담에 대해서 축하드립니다. 여러분 모두에게 축하드립니다. 오늘 합의문에 서명을 하셨는데요. 실질적으로 말하면 본질적으로 종이 한 장입니다.


어제 폼페이오 국무장관께서는 이전 대통령들도 이런 종이에 서명한 적이 있었고 하지만 이런 약속을 지키지 않았고. 또는 이런 것에 대해서 저희가 기만을 당했다, 이런 식으로 말씀을 하셨습니다. 이번에는 뭐가 다른가요?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

이번에는 행정부가 다릅니다. 대통령도 다르고 또 국무위원장도 다른 사람입니다. 그리고 이러한 일들은 우리는 꼭 수행해낼 겁니다. 하지만 이전의 사람들은 이게 우선순위가 아닐 수도 있고 제대로 하지 못했다라고 생각합니다.


만약 최우선순위로 삼았다면 더 잘했을 수도 있었을 것이고 이전에는 더 쉬웠을 겁니다. 10년 전이었다면, 5년 전이었다면 훨씬 해결이 쉬웠을 겁니다.


오바마 대통령 탓을 하는 건 아닙니다. 이미 25년 전에 해결됐어야 할 문제입니다. 그렇기 때문에 지금 여기까지 왔기 때문에 이렇게 된 겁니다.


그리고 이런 핵 합의도 있었고 많은 문제들이 있지 않았습니까? 우리는 지금 어쨌든 잘했고 이란 핵합의에 대해서는 문제도 그렇지만 저에게는 핵문제가 넘버원입니다.


가장 중요한 문제입니다. 이란 핵합의는 또 다른 문제죠. 왜냐하면 이란은 북한과 다릅니다. 지금은 지중해적으로 보는 게 아니라 시리아적으로 그런 나라 쪽으로 닮아가는 것 같습니다. 


하지만 말씀을 하셨다시피 아주 적절한 시기에 제재 조치가 이란에 계속 부과되고 있지만 언젠가는 대화를 다시 하자고 올 겁니다. 


[기자]

대통령님, 외교 관계 수립의 희망을 이야기를 하셨고 또 대사 교체 이야기를 하셨는데요. 언제 그것이 가능할까요? 곧 되기를 바랍니다마는 앞으로 많은 노력이 있어야 할 것입니다. 워게임을 중단한다고 했는데 이 말이 한미 군사훈련에 대한 건가요? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

그동안 한미 군사훈련에 대해서만 오랫동안 해 왔는데요. 저희는 그걸 워게임이라고 하죠. 저는 워게임이라고 밝릅니다. 아주 많은 돈도 들어가고요.


많은 예산이 들어가고 있습니다. 한국에서도 돈을 내고는 있지만, 비용 부담을 하고 있지만 100%는 아닙니다. 이 문제에 대해서는 다시 한 번 얘기를 해야 된다고 생각하고요.


공사 예산이라든가 지출에 대해서는, 또 무역에 대해서는 계속 이야기를 해야 합니다. 한국과도 무역협정에 대해서도 다시 얘기를 하고 있습니다.


무역협정에 대해서는 다른 나라들과도 현재 얘기를 하고 있죠. 한미연합훈련 같은 경우는 우리가 비용 부담이 큽니다. 폭격기가 모이는 곳이 괌에서 폭격기가 오고 있고요, 훈련을 할 때요.


6시간 넘게 걸려서 이러한 큰 폭격기들이 한반도 주변으로 배치됩니다. 군사훈련을 하기 위해서죠. 그리고 다시 훈련이 끝나면 괌으로 다시 돌아갑니다.


제가 비행기에 대해서 잘 아는데 아주 비쌉니다. 제가 말한 내용은 뭐냐하면 어쩌면 도발적인 말이 될 수도 있겠지만요. 지금 상황이 아주 포괄적인 합의에 대해서 얘기를 하고 있다는 점을 말씀드리고 싶고요. 일단은 한미 연합훈련과 관련해서는 비용 문제가 있고요.


그다음에 이 문제에 대해서는 아주... 북한은 그 대가로 무엇을 줄 수 있을까요? 이 부분에 대해서는 제가 굳이 언론에 반박한다거나 하지는 않았습니다.


다만 이런 말을 하는 사람들이 있는 것 같습니다. 대통령이 너무 많은 걸 포기했다, 얻은 것이 없다, 이런 식으로 얘기를 하는 사람들도 있는데요.


사실 저희가 지난 24시간 동안 거의 잠도 자지 않고 계속 협상을 가졌습니다. 존 볼턴 보좌관, 그리고 폼페이오 장관 등을 포함한 대표단이 굉장히 많은 노력을 해 주셨고 그 과정에서 우리는 포기한 것이 아무것도 없습니다.


회담을 하기로 했다는 것 외에는 없다고 생각합니다. 그리고 회담을 한 것 자체가 양국에 모두 도움이 됩니다. 그리고 우리가 얻은 것들이 여기에 합의문에 적어놨습니다.


제 생각에는 아마도 저를 싫어하는 사람만이 제가 별로 얻은 것이 없다고 아마 주장할 겁니다. 제가 생각할 때 이번 합의는 미국과 북한에 모두 좋은 내용입니다. 다시 한 번 말씀드리고 싶습니다.


우리는 안전보장을 제공하며 북한은 완전한 한반도 비핵화를 약속했습니다. 그리고 이번 회담을 위해서 억류된 미국인 3명을 풀어줬습니다. 이제 억류됐던 미국인들은 가족과 함께 집에 있습니다.


그 과정은 순탄치는 않았지만 많은 진전이 있었습니다. 그리고 한국전쟁 중 전사한 영웅들의 유해 발굴과 송환에 대한 약속도 있었습니다. 앞서도 말씀드렸습니다마는 굉장히 많은 미국인들이 전사자 가족을 되찾아달라고 요청을 한 바 있습니다.


지금까지 우리는 김 위원장 외에는 다른 사람들과 아무런 관계도 갖지 못하고 있었습니다. 북한은 대단히 폐쇄적인 사회였죠. 하지만 이제 유해 송환을 약속했고 이제 미사일 시험도 중단됐습니다.


불과 몇 달 전까지만 하더라도 미사일 시험이 계속되었고 핵실험도 했었습니다. 그 사실을 상기해 보시기 바랍니다. 핵실험 때문에 진도 8.8의 지진이 발생하기도 했습니다. 아시아에서 지진이 발생했다라는 소식을 듣고 나중에 확인을 해 보니 북한이었다는 것을 확인할 수 있었습니다.


그런 상황이 불과 몇 달 전까지 있었던 겁니다. 그런데 이제 중단되었고 말씀드렸지만 합의문에는 서명되지 않았지만 북한은 미사일 시험장을 이제 폐쇄하는 절차에 돌입을 할 것입니다. 


이제 북한은 이미 북한이 가지고 있는 유일한 핵실험장을 폭파하고 폐쇄한 바 있습니다. 그리고 미사일 엔진 시험장의 폐쇄도 약속을 했습니다. 이것은 합의문에 들어가진 않았습니다마는 그 이후에 합의된 내용입니다.


미사일 엔진 시험장이라는 것이 어디에 있는지 우리는 다 알고 있습니다. 이 미사일 엔진이라는 것은 상당히 중요한 장비인데 이것에 대한 실험장을 닫는다는 것입니다.


아주 중요한 진전입니다. 그 과정에서 우리는 아직은 경제 제재를 지속을 시킬 것입니다. 새로운 제재에 대해서 논의를 한 바도 있습니다마는 사실 회담이 준비되는 상황에서 새로운 제재를 추가할 수는 없다고 생각합니다.


상대를 존중해야 하기 때문이죠. 그래서 지금까지 우리가 얻은 것들을 생각해 보십시오. 억류된 미국인들을 돌려받았고 그것을 위해서 180만 달러를 북한에 줬느냐, 그런 것도 아닙니다.


그래서 우리가 얻은 것은 상당히 많습니다. 물론 언론에서는 이렇게 말할 수도 있을 겁니다. 트럼프 대통령이 회담을 하기로 했다. 그냥 이렇게 이야기를 할 수도 있겠지만 사실 이것은 아주 역사적인 중요한 의미를 갖고 있다고 봅니다.


[기자]

이번 회담을 통해서 얻은 것에 대해서 쭉 말씀을 하셨는데요. 그렇다면 이 회담의 성공은 어떻게 알 수 있을까요? 어떻게 이 회담의 성공을 장담하실 수 있겠습니까?


완전하고 검증 가능하며 불가역적인 비핵화를 이행할 수 있다는 걸 어떻게 확신하십니까? 지금으로서는 시간이 없지 않습니까? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

오늘 하루밖에 안 만났습니다. 그 중에서도 몇 시간 동안 만나서 얘기한 것뿐입니다. 폼페이오 장관도 아시겠지만 이미 핵실험장도 폐기를 했습니다.


말씀드리지만 김정은 위원장은 이 회담에 오기 전에 다른 일들을 많이 했고 또 이전에 실무협상을 통해서 많은 얘기를 나누었습니다. 만약에 합의가 없었다면 서명을 하지 못한겠죠. 오늘 가장 중요한 것은 이전에 있었던 것보다 우리가 오기 전에 이 문제를 해결한 상태였고요.


이미 합의문에 보면 아주 강력한 언어로 적혀 있습니다. 감사합니다.


[기자]

북한이 이 약속을 지키지 않으면 군사적인 어떤 효과가 있을까요? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

그 부분은 말하기 좀 어렵습니다. 저는 위협적 언사를 하고 싶지 않습니다. 물론 북한은 이해를 하고 있는 내용입니다. 그리고 어떤 일이 일어날 수 있는지에 대해서도 여러분도 아마 알고 계실 것입니다. 서울에 굉장히 많은 인구가 살고 있고 DMZ 바로 옆에 있습니다.


뉴욕보다도 훨씬 큰 곳인데 바로 그렇게 북한 가까이에 붙어 있는 것입니다. 만약에 군사적인 충돌이 발생한다면 수백만, 수천만 명이 희생될 것입니다.


세계에서 가장 큰 도시 중의 하나인 서울이 바로 국경 근처에 있다는 것을 기억하셔야 합니다. 


[기자]

대통령께서 화염과 분노를 언급하시지 않았습니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

그때 당시에는 그것이 필요했을지도 모릅니다. 왜냐하면 미국의 관점에서 북한의 핵능력의 발전을 두고 볼 수 없었기 때문입니다. 일본 역시도 마찬가지 입장이었습니다.


[기자]

회견 직전에 상영된 영상에 대해서 설명해 주시기 바랍니다. 김 위원장에게 보여주셨나요? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

보여주었습니다. 아주 흥미로운 내용이라고 생각했습니다. 하나는 영어, 하나는 한국어로 준비되어 있었고요. 김 위원장에게 그 영상을 회담이 끝나갈 때쯤에 보여줬습니다. 김 위원장은 아주 좋은 반응이었습니다.


여러분처럼 이렇게 큰 화면으로 보지는 못 했습니다마는 아이패드로 보여주었고요. 북측에 8명 정도의 대표단이 그 영상을 보면서 반응이 아주 좋았습니다. 저는 미래가 무엇인지 보여주고 싶었습니다. 그렇게 될 수 있다는 것을 보여주고 싶었습니다.


밝은 미래가 아닌 다른 선택지는 분명히 좋지 않은 것입니다. 김 위원장이 뭔가를 해내기를 바랐기 때문에 보여준 것이고요. 그러한 의지들 또한 확인했습니다. 


[기자]

오늘 아주 이번 주 바쁘셨는데요. 싱가포르에서 김정은 위원장과 회담을 가졌고 이전에 G7에서 회담을 가졌습니다. 그리고 캐나다 총리에게 나약하다라고 했습니다. 미국의 동맹국들의 입장에서 우려할 수 있다고 생각이 드는데요, 어떻게 생각하십니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

좋은 질문인데요. 저는 G7에서 아주 좋은 회담을 가졌습니다. 그 회담장을 제가 떠나왔습니다마는 솔직히 말씀드리면 모든 국가들과 그 회담을 아주 충분히 활용했다고 생각합니다.


대통령의 입장에서 지금까지 무역에 대해서 신경을 너무 안 써오지 않았나라는 생각을 합니다. 중국이 이제 무역에서 우리로부터 아주 많은 이득을 가져가고 있고 EU도 마찬가지입니다.


현재 캐나다의 경우에도 무역 적자 관련해서 미국에게 많은 불이익을 주고 있습니다. 캐나다에 대한 무역적자가 아주 큽니다. 캐나다가 내놓은 문서가 하나있는데요.


보셨는지 모르겠습니다마는 캐나다에 대한 무역 적자가 1000억 달러 가까이 됩니다. 특히 농산물을 우리에게 많이 수출을 합니다. 그리고 우리에게는 70%의 관세를 매기고 있고 또 낙농의 경우에는 295%나 됩니다.


이것은 미국 농민들에게 아주 불공정합니다. 이렇게 많은 관세를 저희에게 매기고 있는 상황에 대해서 저는 균형을 조금이라도 더 맞추기 위해서 관세를 매기기로 한 것입니다.


그것에 대해서 캐나다는 이건 너무 좋지 않다라고 이야기합니다마는 중요한 것은 완벽한 균형도 아니지만 조금이라도 균형을 맞추는 것이라고 생각합니다.


G7 회담은 잘 마무리됐습니다. 모두가 만족을 했습니다. 모두가 서명을 했고 제가 수정을 요구를 했는데 그것이 다 반영이 되었습니다. 그리고 메르켈 총리도 저와 좋은 관계를 가졌습니다.


여러분이 모두 보신 사진이 있었는데 그 자리는 사실 아주 우호적이었습니다. 화면으로 보셨을 때는 제가 팔짱도 끼고 그렇게 보지 않으셨겠지만 합의문을 기다리는 중이었고 대화를 진행하고 있었습니다.


아주 우호적인 그런 분위기에서 회담이 진행되었습니다. 그리고 여러분이 에어포스원에 TV가 다 설치되어 있다라는 그런 사실을 아시는지 모르겠는데요.


캐나다 총리가 미국에게 휘둘리지 않겠다, 이런 발언을 했다고 하는데 저는 그것은 현실을 제대로 설명한 것은 아니라고 생각합니다. 지난 많은 세월을 한번 생각해 보시기 바랍니다.


미국은 무역과 관련해서 8000억 달러의 적자를 냈습니다. 그중 가장 큰 적자는 대중적자였습니다. 그리고 EU에 대해서는 1500억 달러의 적자가 발생했습니다.


유럽은 메르세데스, BMW 등을 많이 수출합니다마는 우리는 많이 수출하지 못하고 있습니다. 이것은 우리 기업들에게 결코 공정하지 못합니다.


의회도 참여하도록 하겠습니다. 캐나다 총리와도 사이는 좋습니다. 제가 비행기에서 TV를 보지 않는다고 생각했기 때문에 그런 얘기를 한 것 같은데요.


제가 봤을 때는 그것 때문에 역효과가 났다고 생각합니다. 우리는 아주 좋게 회의를 끝내고 나왔는데 그렇게 뒤에서 다른 얘기를 했습니다. 저는 메르켈 총리와도 아주 사이좋게 지내고 있습니다.


나토에도 많은 돈을 지불하고 있고요. GDP 대비로 보면 우리가 훨씬 많이 내고 있습니다. 4.2%나 내고 있으니까요. 90%까지 저희가 그걸 부담하고 있고 나토 국가들 저희가 보호하고 있습니다.


그런데 이렇게 무역 문제에서 이렇게 나오다니 정말 안타깝습니다. 하지만 어쨌든 트뤼도 캐나다 총리와는 개인적으로가 아주 관계가 좋습니다. 김정은 위원장과도 같습니다. 앞으로도 큰 일을 같이 해결하고 아주 오래 오래 이 문제를 해결해야 하기 때문에 잘 지내야 한다고 생각합니다. 


[기자]

이 기자회견을 계속해야 될까요? 전설적인 세라 허커비 샌더스 대변인께 물어봐야 되겠는데 계속해도 될까요? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

저는 상관없습니다. 계속 질문을 받겠습니다. 집을 좀 늦게 돌아가도 상관이 없겠죠. 질문하십시오. 


[기자]

안녕하십니까? 싱가포르에 오신 것을 환영합니다. 정말 아름다운 나라입니다. 이것을 프로세스라고 표현하셨는데요. 즉각적으로 취해질 다음 단계는 무엇입니까? 대화를 계속한다는 것입니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

그렇습니다. 다음 주에 세부 사항에 대해서 폼페이오 장관이 논의할 것입니다. 폼페이오 장관, 존 볼턴 보좌관 등 우리 대표단이 세부사항에 대한 논의를 하고 실행에 옮기도록 할 것입니다. 그리고 한국 정부와도 협력할 것이고 일본 정부, 중국 정부와도 협력할 것입니다. 


[기자]

싱가포르에 다시 오실 겁니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

다시 올 것 같습니다. 그리고 리센룽 총리가 굉장히 훌륭한 일을 해 주셨고 저를 많이 환영해 주셨습니다. 감사합니다. 


[기자]

첫 번째 처음으로 오늘 아침에 김정은 위원장을 만나고 회의장에 계속 남아야겠다고 생각하신 이유는 뭡니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

말씀드렸지만 관계고 사람입니다. 1초만 보면 이 사람이 어떤 사람인지 간파한다고 말씀드렸죠. 1초만 보면 알 수 있습니다. 어떤 경우는 그렇지 않은 경우도 있지만요.


하지만 어떤 경우는 그런 경우도 있습니다. 처음부터 우리는 아주 말이 잘 맞았습니다. 만나서 얘기를 했고요. 그냥 앉아서 계속 이야기를 했습니다.


이 복잡한 문제에 대해서요. 70년 동안 계속된 이 복잡한 문제에 대해서 바로 얘기에 들어갔습니다. 사실은 몇 달 전부터 이런 얘기들이 오고 갔었고 협상이 있었습니다.


비핵화를 한다면 아주 좋은 일을 많이 할 거라고 생각합니다. 이전에 평창올림픽 때도 아주 잘했고요. 그 당시만 하더라도 북한 쪽에서 살짝 좋지는 않았던 것 같고요.


김정은 위원장이 처음에는 흥행이 잘 되지는 않았지만 북한에서 참여한다고 했을 때 관심도 넓어졌고, 사람들의 관심도 넓어졌고 티켓도 더 많이 팔렸습니다.


그 이후로 많은 일들이 있었고요. 한국에서 한국 대표단이 미국에 와서 얘기를 했고 또 북한과 미국과 사람들이 왔다 갔다 하면서 계속 이야기를 했고요.


그들의 비핵화 의지를 알 수 있는 부분이었습니다. 사실 이런 문제에 대해서는 올림픽이 끝나고 본격적으로 얘기가 나왔습니다. 비핵화에 대해서도 말입니다.


[기자]

두 번째 질문을 드립니다. 합의문 내용에 보면 북한이 비핵화를 한다고 되어 있는데요. 사실 대통령께서 전임 대통령들에 대해서 비판하셨던 내용을 생각을 해 본다면 북한이 말만 하고 행동은 취하지 않으면 어떻게 합니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

사실 그 부분에 대해서는 누구도 확실하게 알 수 있는 것은 없습니다. 제가 말씀드릴 수 있는 것은 북한이 합의를 하기를 원했다라는 것입니다. 저는 그걸 알 수가 있습니다.


제가 평생 해 왔던 일이기도 하고요. 그리고 누군가가 합의를 정말 원하는지 아닌지 저는 분명히 알 수 있습니다. 다른 정치인들은 어떨지 몰라도 저는 알 수 있습니다.


사실 이런 합의는 이미 오래전에 있었어야 되는 것이라고 생각합니다. 하지만 어쨌든 제가 느꼈던 바로는 북한은 분명 합의를 원한다는 것이고 이것은 세계에 좋을 것입니다.


중국 역시 이것에 대해서 만족할 겁니다. 중국 역시 바로 이웃 국가가 핵무기를 갖고 있는 걸 좋아하지는 않을 테니까요. 그래서 앞으로에 대해서 누구도 확신할 수는 없을 겁니다. 하지만 분명 의지가 있었고 앞으로 협상에서 그걸 확인할 수 있을 겁니다. 


[기자]

아까 언급하시기를 인권 문제에 대해서 제기를 하셨다고 했는데요. 지금 이 기자회견을 보지 못하는 북한 사람들은 사실은 정치수용소에 갇혀있거나 이런 사람들은 이런 상황을 모르지 않습니까? 이런 사람들에게 뭐라고 하시겠습니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

상황이 변할 겁니다. 제가 지금까지 할 수 있는 건 제가 할 수 있는 일을 하는 겁니다. 비핵화가 그렇고요. 그 이외에도 다른 문제들도 가능할 겁니다.


하지만 언젠가는 뭔가 긍정적인 질문을 하시고 또 거기에 대한 좋은 대답을 할 수 있는 날이 오기를 바랍니다. 제가 봤을 때는 그분들이, 지금 말씀하셨던 그분들이 언젠가는 가장 위대한 승자가 될 것입니다.


[기자]

대통령께서 북한의 인권 상황 진전 전에 경제제재를 해제할 생각이 있으십니까? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

아닙니다. 인권 상황이 크게 개선되기도 바랍니다. 물론 이것은 프로세스이고 완전하게 끝나지는 않는다 하더라도 기계적으로 물리적으로 돌아갈 수 없는 지점이 있을 겁니다. 그 지점에서 우리는 경제 제재를 해제할 수 있을 겁니다. 


[기자]

비핵화의 비용에 대해서도 말씀하셨나요? 누가 이 비용을 하기로 했는지? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

이 비용과 관련해서는 아마 도와주는 데 있어서 한국과 일본이 도와줄 거라고 생각합니다. 그리고 도와야 한다고 생각합니다. 그리고 도운다고 생각하고요.


미국은 돕지 않아도 된다고 생각합니다. 그동안 많은 대가를 치렀습니다. 다른 곳에서 돈도 많이 들어갔고요. 하지만 한국이 북한의 바로 옆에 있고 일본도 그렇고요.


그들이 북한을 지원할 거라고 생각합니다. 아주 훌륭한 일이라고 생각하기 때문에 그들이 도울 거라고 생각합니다. 


[기자]

앞 질문에 이어서 질문 드리겠는데요. 비핵화가 얼마나 걸릴까요? 긴 시간이 걸린다고 말씀하셨는데 어떤 뜻입니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

말씀드렸듯이 과학적으로 가능한 만큼 그리고 기계적으로 가능한 만큼 최대한 빠르게 진행되어야 할 것입니다. 물론 15년이 걸린다, 이래서는 안 될 겁니다. 분명 이 프로세스 중에 어떤 시점에서는 예를 들어 20%가 완료된다 하더라도 되돌릴 수 없는 지점이 있을 것입니다.


제가 MIT의 어떤 교수님과 이 핵 문제에 대해서 아주 긴 논의를 한 바 있습니다. 이 핵 문제는 상당히 복잡한 문제입니다. 핵을 없애자 한다고 바로 없애지는 게 아니라 시간이 걸린다는 것이죠. 


하지만 중요한 것은 이 프로세스에서 어떤 지점을 넘어가게 되면 도열해가기 어려울 것이라는 것입니다. 그 지점인지 언제인지 정확하게 알 수 없지만 빠르게 될 것입니다. 


[기자]

제재 문제에 대해서 다시 한 번 말씀드리겠습니다. 중국에 대해서 지금까지는 이전에 열심히 했었는데 요즘에 좀 느슨해졌다라고 말했는데요.


시진핑 주석을 만나러 갔을 때도 그랬고요. 최근 러시아 외무부장관이 북한을 방문했었습니다. 그리고 이러한 협상이 진행되고 있는 동안은 제재가 풀려야 된다는 얘기도 나왔었고요.


한국과 무역 문제, 무역협정 얘기도 하셨고요. 이런 문제들이 제재 조치를 완화하는 쪽으로 가는 것 같은데요. 이걸 계속해서 강력하게 할 수 있는 레버리지는 뭐가 있는 건가요?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

저희는 그런 레버리지가 있다고 생각합니다. 중국 같은 경우에는 시진핑 주석에 대해서 제가 많이 존경을 하는 분인데요. 무역에 대해서 요즘 아주 험한 말이 오고가고 있지만 어쨌든 저는 해야 할 일을 해야 합니다.


지난 두 달 동안 이전에 아주 제재 조치를 강력하게 했을 때보다는 약간 국경 봉쇄가 느슨해졌습니다. 아시다시피 저희가 대중무역적자가 아주 많습니다.


그 무역적자가 아주 크고요. 가만히 있을 수가 없습니다. 그리고 이러한 상황을 계속 유지할 수 없습니다. 이런 무역 문제 때문에 다른 시진핑 주석에 대해 개인적인 감정이 생기거나 그러지는 않았습니다.


하지만 무역전쟁과 이런 관계와 관련해서 어떻게 보면 제재 쪽하고도 관련이 있지 않았을까, 영향을 미치지 않았을까 생각이 드는데 어쩔 수 없다고 생각합니다.


한국 입장에서는 무역협정에 있어서 계속 무역을 해야 하기 때문에 어쩔 수 없는 상황일 겁니다. 지금 계속 이 협정이, 오늘 합의는 그냥 우연하게 만들어진 게 아니고 그동안 몇 개월에 걸친 노력의 결과입니다.


그리고 레토렉이나 제재가 중요한 게 아닙니다. 둘 중에 두 가지 모두가 중요한 것입니다. 어느 한쪽만 중요한 게 아닙니다. 김정은 위원장이 핵무기를 몇 개나 갖고 있다라는 것을 언급을 했는지 그리고 그중에 몇 개나 먼저 반출할 수 있다라고 언급했는지 궁금합니다.


사실 이란 핵합의와 관련해서도 우라늄과 플루토늄, 핵탄두의 해체가 문제가 될 수 있는데요. 이와 관련해서 김정은 위원장이 어느 정도의 시간표를 가지고 있었는지 궁금합니다.


김정은 위원장은 이 문제를 상당히 잘 이해하고 있습니다. 북측 대표단보다도 김정은 위원장의 이해도가 더 깊습니다. 비핵화 조치의 시점은 상당히 금방 다가올 것입니다.


저는 분명 굉장히 빠른 진전이 있을 것이라고 생각을 합니다. 물론 북한의 핵무기 보유고라는 것은 상당한 수준에 이르러 있기는 합니다. 여기서 중요한 것은 우리 미국이 그 문제와 관련해서 굉장히 많은 정보를 보유하고 있다는 것입니다.


상당한 핵 보유고를 갖고 있다는 것을 우리는 이미 알고 있습니다. 그렇기 때문에 더욱더 5년 전, 10년 전, 15년 전에 이런 합의가 있었다면 훨씬 더 좋았을 것이고 이런 회담이 성공할지 안 할지에 대해서 긴장을 많이 하지 않을 수 있었을 것입니다. 그 부분에 대해서는 인터뷰를 계속 앞으로도 할 겁니다.


[기자]

2차 회담이 있다면 김정은 위원장이 워싱턴을 방문할 건가요?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

그 부분에 대해서는 아직 설정하지는 않았습니다. 아마도 다른 회담이나 회의가 필요할 겁니다. 이런 얘기를 할 줄은 몰랐는데요. 너무나 사람들의 기대감을 올리고 싶지는 않았습니다.


물론 우리가 잘 맞는다면, 관계가 잘 구축이 된다면 앞으로 이런 일들이 일어날 거라고 말은 했지만 그동안 아주 사전 준비가 잘 됐기 때문에 오늘에까지 이르렀다고 생각합니다.


많은 일들이 빠르게 일어날 수 있습니다. 전쟁 포로의 유해를 발굴해서 송환하는 문제는 정말 오랫동안 일어나지 않을 거라고 믿었던 겁니다. 하지만 마지막 회의, 마지막 쪽에 이 얘기를 했습니다.


그래서 이 문제에 대해서, 이 부분에 대해서 해결을 해 주겠다고 했습니다. 고속도로라든가 길가에 이런 분들이 묻혀 있을 거라고 하는데요. 아주 슬픈 일입니다. 이 얘기가 회의 막판에 나왔습니다. 그래서 이 문제를 해결해 줄 수 있다는 점에서 매우 기쁘게 생각합니다.


[기자]

우선 대통령께 축하드립니다. 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

축하의 말씀 감사합니다. 이제 날카로운 질문이 오겠죠. 


[기자]

북한의 미래에 대해서 말씀드리고 싶습니다. 김정은은 밝은 미래 그리고 번영을 원한다고 말했습니다. 북한 주민들은 많은 탄압을 받아 왔죠. 그리고 앞서 보신 영상에서도 밝은 미래가 제시돼 있습니다. 그런데 과연 김 위원장이 어떤 모델을 향해서 가고자 하는지 궁금합니다. 경제적 자유를 더 원하는 것인가요?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

좋은 질문입니다. 제가 이 영상을 보여주고 나서 이렇게 말했습니다. 물론 이 영상에 나온 것과 똑같은 것을 김 위원장이 원하지는 않을 수도 있다. 그것을 내가 알고 있다라고 이야기를 한 바 있습니다.


좀 더 다른 그림을 원할 수도 있겠죠. 그것은 물론 김 위원장, 그리고 북한 주민들의 의사에 달려 있을 것입니다. 제가 제시하고자 했던 것은 하나의 가능성입니다.


그리고 우리가 북한에 아주 아름다운 해변 그리고 콘도들을 볼 수 있었죠. 그래서 해변에 대포를 배치하는 것이 아니라 그렇게 관광지로 개발할 수 있다라는 것을 말하고 싶었습니다.


북한은 중국과 한국 사이에 있기 때문에 굉장히 좋은 입지를 갖고 있기도 합니다. 그래서 제가 영상에서 보여준 그런 미래를 원할 수도 있고 조금 다른 모델을 원할 수도 있습니다.


제가 이 영상을 아이패드로 보여줬을 때 북측에서는 정말 좋은 반응을 보였습니다. 몇 가지, 3개의 질문만 더 받겠습니다. 


[기자]

타임매거진에서 나왔습니다. 이번 주에도 제가 커버 사진에 등장할까요? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

가능하다고 봅니다.


[기자]

김정은 위원장이 동등한 인간으로 보시나요?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

어떤 방식으로 말입니까? 


[기자]

영상을 보여주셨는데요. 김정은과 같은 자리에서 나란히 서 있는 화면이 있지 않았습니까? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

그런 의미가 있지는 않습니다. 다만 세계를 더 안전한 곳으로 만들고 싶을 뿐입니다. 저는 이렇게 연단에 나와서 지금 어떤 질문을 하는지 알겠는데요.


제가 이 연단에 서서 김정은 위원장과 같이 서 있다면, 같이 서서 3000명 이상의 많은 사람들의 목숨을 구할 수 있다면 기꺼이 하겠습니다.

제가 그런 임무를 띠고 싱가포르의 회담에 온 것도 세계 평화를 위해서입니다.


제 시간을 내서 이렇게 나왔습니다. 그쪽에서도 사실은 많은 것들을 내놓았습니다. 올림픽 얘기를 아까 했었는데요. 올림픽에도 출전을 했습니다.


어쩌면 당시 북한의 위협이 있었기 때문에 올림픽이 치러지지 않았을 수도 있지만 올림픽에 참가함으로써 비로소 성사가 안전하게 성사가 됐습니다.


수백 명의 사람들이 이렇게 와서 어디서부터인가 어떤 관계를 구축한다는 것은 매우 중요합니다. 그리고 김정은 위원장은 지금 현재 나라에서 아주 강한 집권력을 갖고 있고요.


[기자]

지금 보여줄 수 있는 영상이 김 위원장에 의해 선전 영상으로 사용될 거라는 걱정은 하십니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령] 

아니요, 그런 걱정은 하지 않습니다.


[기자]

대통령님, 2000년에 클린턴 대통령은 김정일로부터 요청을 받은 바 있습니다. 평양으로 초청한다는 요청을 받았는데요. 당시에 클린턴 대통령은 거절했습니다. 클린턴 대통령은 상당히 많은 돈을 쓰고도 비핵화를 이루지 못했죠. 트럼프 대통령께서는 이런 비판을 알고 계십니까?


이번 회담으로 인해서 김정은 위원장에 대해서 정통성이라고 하는 가장 큰 선물을 준 것이 아니냐. 자유세계 지도자인 미국 대통령이 김 위원장과 만나서 악수를 하고 이 사람을 지도자로 인정하는 것 자체가 김정은이 얻어간 것이라고 생각하시진 않습니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령]

그 부분은 물론 제가 이해를 하고 있습니다. 구체적인 확답을 받은 부분이 핵실험장의 폐쇄 문제와 또 전쟁 포로 유해에 대한 얘기였는데요.


만약 이런 약속들을 지키지 않는다면 어떻게 대응하실 겁니까? 잘 못해서 체면을 잃거나 이러는 거 아닙니까? 아닙니다. 저는 믿고 있습니다.


엔진 테스트하는 실험장을 폭파한다고 했습니다. 아주 강력한 테스트 실험장이 있는데요. 그 부분을 폐쇄한다고 했습니다. 저는 정말 기쁩니다.


이 두 가지 문제를 조항을 지적을 하셨는데 그 부분에 대해서는 정말 기쁘게 생각합니다. 솔직히 말씀을 드리면 약속한 내용을 지킬 거라고 생각합니다.


6개월 뒤에 보시면 알 겁니다. 물론 제가 틀릴 수도 있겠지만 그건 그때 봐야 아는 거 아니겠습니까? 


[기자]

워싱턴에 돌아가서 시진핑 주석과 오늘 회담 성과에 대해서 통화를 하실 겁니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령]

네, 하겠습니다. 


[기자]

그리고 중국이 이 프로세스를 가속화하는 데 어떤 역할을 할 거라고 생각하십니까? 


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령]

중국에 대한 저의 기대에 대해 말씀드리자면 중국은 위대한 나라이고 위대한 지도자를 갖고 있습니다. 시 주석은 저의 친구이기도 합니다. 아마 오늘 회담 결과에 만족할 거라 생각합니다.


아마도 미국에 돌아가기 전에 통화를 가질 수도 있습니다. 말씀드리고 싶은 것은 미국도 위대한 나라라는 것입니다. 미국은 경제적으로 7조 달러 이상의 경제적인 생산을 이뤄왔습니다.


그리고 경제 규모도 대단히 큽니다. 현재 미국의 경제 규모는 중국에 비해서 2배 이상입니다. 우리는 위대한 나라이고 올바른 길로 가고 있습니다. 마지막 질문 받겠습니다. 한국 기자 어디 있나요? 한국 기자 질문을 받아야겠습니다. 질문 하나는 한국 기자로부터 받겠습니다.


[기자]

두 가지 질문이 있습니다. 문재인 대통령과 통화할 거라고 말씀하셨는데요. 어떤 논의를 하실 겁니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령]

이번 회담에 대해 설명할 거고 큰 성공이었다고 말씀드릴 겁니다. 문재인 대통령이 최종 협상에 있어서 큰 역할을 했고 아주 훌륭한 신사이자 저의 친구입니다.


문 대통령은 회담 결과를 들으면 아주 만족할 겁니다. 이미 이 내용을 어느 정도 설명하는 문서를 보낸 바 있고 그 세부사항들에 대해서 더 논의할 생각입니다.


[기자]

하나만 더 질문하겠습니다. 평화협정과 관련해서 김 위원장과만 평화협정을 체결하실 겁니까? 한국 그리고 중국도 서명국으로 참여하는 것을 고려하십니까?


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령]

한국과 중국도 참여했으면 합니다. 법적으로 해야 한다, 안 해야 한다와 분리해서 법적으로 의무사항인지 여부와는 별도로 한국과 중국도 참여하기를 바랍니다.


[도널드 트럼프 / 미국 대통령]

오늘 기자회견 내용에 트레스필터가 나올 건가요? 이 내용은 아직 녹음하지 않았다고 하는데요. 녹음하고 있습니까? 녹음을 했으면 좋겠는데요. 아주 흥미로운 일이니까요. 아마도 노트 테이킹을 해 놓은 게 있을 겁니다. 메모가 있을 건데요. 


오늘 대화 내용이 매우 좋았고요. 회담 내용이 매우 좋았고 제가 기억력이 아주 좋기 때문에 그것을 일일이 따로 정리할 필요는 없다고 생각합니다. 그 문제에 대해서는 얘기하고 싶지 않습니다.


다만 오늘 우리 회담에서 많은 얘기를 나눴습니다. 아주 중요한 관계가 구축이 됐고요. 폼페이오 국무장관 레벨에서도 장관급에서도 좋은 관계가 구축되어 있고요. 오늘 마지막 합의에 들어갔을 때 관계를 많이 구축했고 또 많은 지식을 갖고 많은 정보를 갖고 했습니다.


아주 오랜 시간이 흘렀습니다. 이제는 새로운 일이 시작되는 시점이라고 생각하고요. 오늘 질문해 주셔서 감사하고 여러분 모두에게 축하의 말씀 드립니다. 오늘 저에게 매우 중요한 행사였고 사건이었고 세계의 역사에서도 매우 중요한 일이라고 생각합니다.


정말 진심으로 말씀드리자면 아주 이걸 끝까지 완결이 되는 걸 보고 싶습니다. 그렇지 않으면 우리가 지금까지 아주 잘 일을 해 왔고 골이 들어가기 전까지, 들어가야 끝나는 거니까요. 여러분, 감사합니다.


(번역 출처 : YTN) 


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